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AnselmAdorne Sep 18, 2005 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by Shareholder
Didn't this happen a month or two ago, also at YVR?! Of course, the whole security thing is a massive farce and waste of money.

Something similar has also happened in YHZ several times in the last 18 months or so. Big panic, clear the departures lounge, review the tapes, re-screen everyone, etc.

tracon Sep 18, 2005 2:58 pm

Things are back to normal now. Except for the delays.
Hope no one was doing a mileage here.

luxury Sep 18, 2005 3:21 pm

The irony of security is the more one has of it, the less that person and their neighbours feel as such....... at least dying in a plane crash means the loved ones left behind will live comfortably at your literal expense......

gbeaumont Sep 18, 2005 4:56 pm

Breech or lack there of
 
I was at YVR checking in when the shut down happened. How incompetent can our security contractors get? When they finally got their heads out of their collective a** they refuse to tell us what happened, screw around with peoples flights, delay the airlines - for what - no penalty? All becasue they do not know how to staff an entrance?

The "breech" was at Pier C which requires fast track passengers to go through security as per everyone else - how many people were not at their posts?

I wish I could land such a good contract......

luv2flyJ Sep 18, 2005 5:17 pm

I just went through security twice in YUL domestic (don't even get me started as to why) and neither time through did anyone even ask to see a BP?????? Both times there was a very long queue for YUL standards and there were only either 5 security lines the first time and 4 the second time. I asked one of the agents why so few lines running and she said a bunch of them were sent to the US wing and some others were on break. She went on to say that "they work SOOOO hard and need a break". Not that they don't have an important job, but come on, waving the metal detectors and rolling carry-ons onto a converyor must be a lot more strenous than I thought. :rolleyes:

BTW, the 17:50 YUL-YVR was showing as delayed for over an hour. Perhaps due to the YVR security issue?

tracon Sep 18, 2005 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by luv2flyJ
BTW, the 17:50 YUL-YVR was showing as delayed for over an hour. Perhaps due to the YVR security issue?

Most likely not. The breach happened around 11a.m. Your plane would have had to left YVR about 9:30 to operate a 17:50 departure on time.

Overwing Sep 18, 2005 6:20 pm

Another fine example of federal incompetence.

Security is a sham, plain and simple.

Purely for optics.

I hope AC sues CATSA for costs incurred (Again) for delays and misconnecting customers. This follows the YHZ Airport Authority debacle earlier this summer.

In a business where margins a paper thin to begin with, this cannot possibly help.

YOWkid Sep 18, 2005 6:42 pm

Don't get this mixed up. It wasn't federal incomptence. It was that of the contractor!!! I find it a shame that these people get to wear the Canada wordmark. Disgraceful.

Overwing Sep 18, 2005 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by YOWkid
Don't get this mixed up. It wasn't federal incomptence. It was that of the contractor!!! I find it a shame that these people get to wear the Canada wordmark. Disgraceful.


Not mixed up at all.

Who contracted this outfit ??

Who charged a security tax for the benefit of all Canadians and pours it into general revenue ??

Little in the way of new equipment, little in the way of training ala Europe, standards that are horribly wide and varied from one airport to the next in this country.

But the uniforms are nice !!

ALW Sep 18, 2005 7:36 pm


Don't get this mixed up. It wasn't federal incomptence. It was that of the contractor!!!
So presumably it isn't AC's fault when one of their contractors screws up either? Of course it's the government's fault.

=aw

After Burner Sep 18, 2005 7:41 pm


Originally Posted by YOWkid
Don't get this mixed up. It wasn't federal incomptence. It was that of the contractor!!! I find it a shame that these people get to wear the Canada wordmark. Disgraceful.

How is that any different from saying "It wasn't federal incompetence. It was that of the federal employees."?

CATSA Screener Sep 19, 2005 7:35 am


Originally Posted by luv2flyJ
Not that they don't have an important job, but come on, waving the metal detectors and rolling carry-ons onto a converyor must be a lot more strenous than I thought. :rolleyes:

I found being a hand wander to be pretty strenuous during peak times. I regularly broke a mild sweat.


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