Long Layover in Toronto/Elite 35K Lounge Access
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Long Layover in Toronto/Elite 35K Lounge Access
Flying tomorrow from Kelowna (21.05) to Vancouver on AC 8423 connecting to Toronto (22.55) on AC 126 arriving at 06.15 (+1). We are then flying that night to London - Heathrow (21.30) on AC 848 arriving at 08.30 (+1). I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone can help me with.
1. Will Air Canada allow us to short check our bags to Toronto or will they insist that they get checked through to Heathrow?
2. When we arrive back at Toronto for our flight to London, Is it possible to clear security at the domestic gates instead of the international? I have elite 35 with Air Canada and would like to access the domestic lounge before our flight to London, will they allow me access? I will be travelling with my girlfriend but have quite a few guest passes so will be able to use one of them for her.
3. I haven't traveled through Toronto airport in quite some time. My understanding is that switching from the domestic to international gates is quite a simple process that is similar to how it works in Vancouver?
4. I have nexus however my girlfriend does not. Am I able to take her through the nexus security line with me?
Thanks for all your help.
1. Will Air Canada allow us to short check our bags to Toronto or will they insist that they get checked through to Heathrow?
2. When we arrive back at Toronto for our flight to London, Is it possible to clear security at the domestic gates instead of the international? I have elite 35 with Air Canada and would like to access the domestic lounge before our flight to London, will they allow me access? I will be travelling with my girlfriend but have quite a few guest passes so will be able to use one of them for her.
3. I haven't traveled through Toronto airport in quite some time. My understanding is that switching from the domestic to international gates is quite a simple process that is similar to how it works in Vancouver?
4. I have nexus however my girlfriend does not. Am I able to take her through the nexus security line with me?
Thanks for all your help.
#2
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Flying tomorrow from Kelowna (21.05) to Vancouver on AC 8423 connecting to Toronto (22.55) on AC 126 arriving at 06.15 (+1). We are then flying that night to London - Heathrow (21.30) on AC 848 arriving at 08.30 (+1). I have a couple of questions that I'm hoping someone can help me with.
1. Will Air Canada allow us to short check our bags to Toronto or will they insist that they get checked through to Heathrow?
2. When we arrive back at Toronto for our flight to London, Is it possible to clear security at the domestic gates instead of the international? I have elite 35 with Air Canada and would like to access the domestic lounge before our flight to London, will they allow me access? I will be travelling with my girlfriend but have quite a few guest passes so will be able to use one of them for her.
3. I haven't traveled through Toronto airport in quite some time. My understanding is that switching from the domestic to international gates is quite a simple process that is similar to how it works in Vancouver?
4. I have nexus however my girlfriend does not. Am I able to take her through the nexus security line with me?
Thanks for all your help.
1. Will Air Canada allow us to short check our bags to Toronto or will they insist that they get checked through to Heathrow?
2. When we arrive back at Toronto for our flight to London, Is it possible to clear security at the domestic gates instead of the international? I have elite 35 with Air Canada and would like to access the domestic lounge before our flight to London, will they allow me access? I will be travelling with my girlfriend but have quite a few guest passes so will be able to use one of them for her.
3. I haven't traveled through Toronto airport in quite some time. My understanding is that switching from the domestic to international gates is quite a simple process that is similar to how it works in Vancouver?
4. I have nexus however my girlfriend does not. Am I able to take her through the nexus security line with me?
Thanks for all your help.
2. I don't know. Unlikely. And DOM MLL to Intl gates is a hike. Even my well known hatred of paying for beer would have me go right to the gate and buying something there
3. Yes, but let above, a long walk.
4. No.
#3
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little info I know:
1. If all the legs are on the same ticket, I imagine your luggage will be checked through for you unless you specifically request that it be short checked- not sure how that works.
2. Not sure, but make sure you check your guest passes- if they allow access to international MLL then screw the domestic lounge and hassle of switching from domestic to international
3. Not sure
4. Unless you can charm the person at the nexus line, I doubt they will let your girlfriend go through. I've often gone to the nexus line with my wife and they just check one of us and let us both through (but we both do have nexus in case).
1. If all the legs are on the same ticket, I imagine your luggage will be checked through for you unless you specifically request that it be short checked- not sure how that works.
2. Not sure, but make sure you check your guest passes- if they allow access to international MLL then screw the domestic lounge and hassle of switching from domestic to international
3. Not sure
4. Unless you can charm the person at the nexus line, I doubt they will let your girlfriend go through. I've often gone to the nexus line with my wife and they just check one of us and let us both through (but we both do have nexus in case).
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On points 2 and 3, I have never been permitted through domestic security with a TB or INT BP. A concierge once suggested I buy a refundable ticket to get through, when I said I had a friend flying to YVR I wanted to meet.
I have also been turned back from the connection path in that situation, because I was not "connecting". Though I've since learned that they're just looking at where your BP was printed, so if you get it a different station, you're fine. And if you get it at YYZ, just say you had it reprinted, and flew in from YVR.
I have also been turned back from the connection path in that situation, because I was not "connecting". Though I've since learned that they're just looking at where your BP was printed, so if you get it a different station, you're fine. And if you get it at YYZ, just say you had it reprinted, and flew in from YVR.
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little info I know:
1. If all the legs are on the same ticket, I imagine your luggage will be checked through for you unless you specifically request that it be short checked- not sure how that works.
2. Not sure, but make sure you check your guest passes- if they allow access to international MLL then screw the domestic lounge and hassle of switching from domestic to international
3. Not sure
4. Unless you can charm the person at the nexus line, I doubt they will let your girlfriend go through. I've often gone to the nexus line with my wife and they just check one of us and let us both through (but we both do have nexus in case).
1. If all the legs are on the same ticket, I imagine your luggage will be checked through for you unless you specifically request that it be short checked- not sure how that works.
2. Not sure, but make sure you check your guest passes- if they allow access to international MLL then screw the domestic lounge and hassle of switching from domestic to international
3. Not sure
4. Unless you can charm the person at the nexus line, I doubt they will let your girlfriend go through. I've often gone to the nexus line with my wife and they just check one of us and let us both through (but we both do have nexus in case).
#6
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On points 2 and 3, I have never been permitted through domestic security with a TB or INT BP. A concierge once suggested I buy a refundable ticket to get through, when I said I had a friend flying to YVR I wanted to meet.
I have also been turned back from the connection path in that situation, because I was not "connecting". Though I've since learned that they're just looking at where your BP was printed, so if you get it a different station, you're fine. And if you get it at YYZ, just say you had it reprinted, and flew in from YVR.
I have also been turned back from the connection path in that situation, because I was not "connecting". Though I've since learned that they're just looking at where your BP was printed, so if you get it a different station, you're fine. And if you get it at YYZ, just say you had it reprinted, and flew in from YVR.
The domestic YYZ is also not that impressive.
#7
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1. You should be able to short-check to YYZ.
2. Good question, don't know since it's never occurred to me to try. But as has been noted, it would be one heck of a walk. Not convinced a free pint is worth it.
3. Again, never tried but can't see a trip to the MLL as being worth the trouble.
4. Not a chance. The security guys check every person, if your GF doesn't have Nexus they will send her to the general line. Which, if you like sleeping indoors, means you too.
For what it's worth, there's a Plaza Premium lounge in the international departures concourse and you can buy day access for something like $30 apiece. You might think about just hanging out there instead, it would likely be a lot less fuss. Food and booze are comparable to the domestic MLL. Or just hang in the terminal and go for a pint there. The domestic MLL isn't worth going out of your way for.
Just sayin ...
2. Good question, don't know since it's never occurred to me to try. But as has been noted, it would be one heck of a walk. Not convinced a free pint is worth it.
3. Again, never tried but can't see a trip to the MLL as being worth the trouble.
4. Not a chance. The security guys check every person, if your GF doesn't have Nexus they will send her to the general line. Which, if you like sleeping indoors, means you too.
For what it's worth, there's a Plaza Premium lounge in the international departures concourse and you can buy day access for something like $30 apiece. You might think about just hanging out there instead, it would likely be a lot less fuss. Food and booze are comparable to the domestic MLL. Or just hang in the terminal and go for a pint there. The domestic MLL isn't worth going out of your way for.
Just sayin ...
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Trusted Travellers include:
- members of NEXUS and Global Entryprograms;
- currently serving members of the Canadian Armed Forces and U.S. military, including reservists, all with valid ID (no uniform required);
- Canadian aircrew and airport workers with Restricted Area Identification Cards(RAICs);
- international aircrew in uniform with valid airline ID; and
- those accompanying these trusted travellers on the same flight.
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2. If you try to go through Domestic security, your ticket is automatically flagged by the CATSA scanner. I was able to go through by explaining to the security person that I wanted to meet up with a friend who was in the domestic lounge (which was the case). I would suggest that you go to the line and try to go through by explaining that you know you are going through the wrong line but want to access the domestic MLL. the worst that happens is they turn you away.
3. It is a relatively simple process to go from domestic to international. Probably a 5-7 minute walk. The "connections" place to go to international isn't all that well marked though.
3. It is a relatively simple process to go from domestic to international. Probably a 5-7 minute walk. The "connections" place to go to international isn't all that well marked though.
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It should be noted that buying a refundable ticket just to use the lounge, whether via status (Y ticket) or via the ticket itself (J ticket) can cause you problems with Air Canada including but not limited to revocation of your status.
The domestic YYZ is also not that impressive.
The domestic YYZ is also not that impressive.
#11
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Incorrect. Your GF can absolutely use the Nexus lane.
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I think the intent of this was to allow TT's to bring family (children, etc.) into the line as those others might not have Nexus, etc. but was expanded to others as it is simpler to administer (i.e. screener only has to validate that both BP's are for the same flight). Not sure that this is stupid from a "trusted" standpoint; most Nexus lines I've been through domestically have the exact same security as non-Nexus, its just that the lineup is shorter and you might have a lower chance of getting a random pat-down. YYC lets you keep liquids in your bag, etc. but everything still gets screened, etc.