AC contractor Air Georgian had faulty maintenance (2019 Update; AC ends contract)
Jun 19, 2018, 1:55 pm
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While there is an competitive advantage to being young, small and agile, there is also a competitive advantage to economies of scale. Its not hard for anyone to think of a friend who tried to scale up and just crashed and burned. The good home cook who opened a restaurant, a plumber or electrician who hired on some assistants and apprentices and couldn't handle being a boss.
I only know what Wikpedia tells me, but the CEO is a pilot. The VP of maintenance is an old mechanic. VP's of flight operations and corporate development, also pilots. Viewed one way, this is a great executive team of people who know the nuts and bolts of operations. Viewed another way, its a collection of good ol' boys who, while being OK at flying or even managing a 5 A/C fleet are simply being pushed beyond their professional abilities.
I only know what Wikpedia tells me, but the CEO is a pilot. The VP of maintenance is an old mechanic. VP's of flight operations and corporate development, also pilots. Viewed one way, this is a great executive team of people who know the nuts and bolts of operations. Viewed another way, its a collection of good ol' boys who, while being OK at flying or even managing a 5 A/C fleet are simply being pushed beyond their professional abilities.
That is a hard transition in any industry. The regulator needs to be cognitive of it and progressively help move them along that path.
Jun 19, 2018, 3:48 pm
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While there is an competitive advantage to being young, small and agile, there is also a competitive advantage to economies of scale. Its not hard for anyone to think of a friend who tried to scale up and just crashed and burned. The good home cook who opened a restaurant, a plumber or electrician who hired on some assistants and apprentices and couldn't handle being a boss.
I only know what Wikpedia tells me, but the CEO is a pilot. The VP of maintenance is an old mechanic. VP's of flight operations and corporate development, also pilots. Viewed one way, this is a great executive team of people who know the nuts and bolts of operations. Viewed another way, its a collection of good ol' boys who, while being OK at flying or even managing a 5 A/C fleet are simply being pushed beyond their professional abilities.
I only know what Wikpedia tells me, but the CEO is a pilot. The VP of maintenance is an old mechanic. VP's of flight operations and corporate development, also pilots. Viewed one way, this is a great executive team of people who know the nuts and bolts of operations. Viewed another way, its a collection of good ol' boys who, while being OK at flying or even managing a 5 A/C fleet are simply being pushed beyond their professional abilities.
Jun 19, 2018, 4:11 pm
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Jun 19, 2018, 4:29 pm
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Out west (YYC) AC took the B1900 flights away from CMA and gave them to Georgian. Not sure why they went away from using CMA, but I don't see them increasing that relationship. I don't think this report would have said anything that AC didn't already know; IMHO if something was going to change it would have happened by now.
Jun 19, 2018, 4:34 pm
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They don't need to, they choose to because it is way cheaper for AC to do so. Why pay mainline wages for regional flights when you can sub it out for much lower costs. It isn't just AC that does this. In the US there are various regional carriers that compete for contracts with major airlines and drive down costs for main carriers; this is why I suspect that AC's use of non-Jazz subcontractors will eventually expand as referenced in my previous post.
Jun 19, 2018, 5:08 pm
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Or something else entirely that I can't see.
Jun 19, 2018, 5:11 pm
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Jun 21, 2018, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by Stranger
Dangerous statement. When the regulator finds issues with the self-regulation, it would seem to mean that self-regulation is not working as it should. Definitely grounds for some alarm and definitely action.
Originally Posted by tccook52
There has been issues with and criticism of SMS since it was announced more than a decade ago
SMS is frequently misinterpreted by those not immersed in it as allowing "self regulating". SMS is a framework for companies to manage their risks and promote a safety culture, giving an organization a set of tools to meet the expectations of safety as defined by a regulator. It should come as no surprise that a regulator may sometimes find issues.
There is absolutely no cause for alarm...the wings are not on fire. Tea will now be served.
Jun 21, 2018, 1:47 pm
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They don't need to, they choose to because it is way cheaper for AC to do so. Why pay mainline wages for regional flights when you can sub it out for much lower costs. It isn't just AC that does this. In the US there are various regional carriers that compete for contracts with major airlines and drive down costs for main carriers; this is why I suspect that AC's use of non-Jazz subcontractors will eventually expand as referenced in my previous post.
The economics wouldn't work for many of those flights were staffed by mainline. They would simply not offer those routes/schedules at all.
Feb 7, 2019, 2:34 pm
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https://nationalpost.com/news/region...cerns-a-factor
Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor
Air Georgian has strenuously denied allegations of safety shortcomings by current and former employees, first reported by the National Post
Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor
Air Georgian has strenuously denied allegations of safety shortcomings by current and former employees, first reported by the National Post
Feb 7, 2019, 5:08 pm
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I've heard a few things about Georgian from some insiders, and I don't want to elaborate for fear of getting certain people in trouble. The things I'd heard were that while there were some concerns, the story blew them out of proportion. I'd heard stories about the guy from the original NP "whistleblower" story while he was still employed there before any of this stuff came out - all I'll say is that in this case I'd take his story with a grain of salt and lean towards the airline's position of it being an ex employee with an axe to grind.