Best J experience to Hong Kong - via Air Canada or EVA?(or Cathay?)
#31
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lipstick on a pig.
Oh and if you dont mind the stop EVA is much nicer service and experience than CX. Also CX likes to COOK its customers with a hot cabin, on EVA they at least turn down the temperature. Side note Turkish is the worst for a HOT cabin.
#32
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BR is my favorite for all the reasons already listed....that first glass of Veuve Cliquot "La Grande Dam" always seals the deal and I enjoy the stretch and walk about in TPE.
#33
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In my experience, CX has taken a significant downturn in service over the last few years. That was not an inconsiderable part of my decision to switch from oneworld (emerald) back to *A (clawing back up from no status). Took AC to HKG for the sevens a couple of weeks ago, and found J-class (without yesterday's updates) to be a significant step up.
CX lounges are only better if you're OWE or flying in F. The J class lounges are not sufficiently better than the SQ or TG lounges to warrant making a decision on that basis. If you're in paid J, the signature suite in YYZ is miles ahead of any J class lounge that CX has got.
CX lounges are only better if you're OWE or flying in F. The J class lounges are not sufficiently better than the SQ or TG lounges to warrant making a decision on that basis. If you're in paid J, the signature suite in YYZ is miles ahead of any J class lounge that CX has got.
#34
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I'd take a direct flight to HKG rather than a stopover in TPE, or anywhere for the matter. The BR onboard product is superior, but the AC product isn't bad and I wouldn't avoid it. 10am AC and 3:30 PM CX departures work for me over a 1:45 AM departure. The AC signature lounge is significantly better than the YYZ Intl PP Lounge. Also, not much happening in TPE at 5:30 AM
If I were to take a 1 stop trip to HKG, I'de probably fly AC759 / SQ1, when I use to fly this route, the SQ lounge was open, but I think its since closed, as has the BR lounge.
I've not been in the Infinity Lounge in TPE, but have spent time in the Star Lounge and while its nice, its not worth adding 3-4 hours to my trip.
If I were to take a 1 stop trip to HKG, I'de probably fly AC759 / SQ1, when I use to fly this route, the SQ lounge was open, but I think its since closed, as has the BR lounge.
I've not been in the Infinity Lounge in TPE, but have spent time in the Star Lounge and while its nice, its not worth adding 3-4 hours to my trip.
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#35
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Air Canada has improved to the point where under certain circumstances, it would be my preferred carrier. Having flown all three in J on this route, alliance and schedule notwithstanding, I prefer CX (better lounges, IFE) > BR (better catering) > AC (direct and *A).
One more point of consideration is the number of delays experienced on the TPE-HKG (and v.v.) route. It's not uncommon for flights to be delayed 30-60 minutes, which possibly could impact your connections.
One more point of consideration is the number of delays experienced on the TPE-HKG (and v.v.) route. It's not uncommon for flights to be delayed 30-60 minutes, which possibly could impact your connections.
#36
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My two cents
I just completed the YYZ-HKG return trip about 10 days ago, and have to say that the entire trip was ordinary. The plane was fine, cleanliness was good, staff was ok, food was ok. Besides the incredibly awful AVOD choices, the entire journey was incredibly ordinary. I still don't understand the new Signature lounge in YYZ. It is an utterly soul-less, boring. and overly precious answer to a question that I suspect very few people were asking. But, despite the absolute ordinariness of this entire trip, and for my $5000, it is still absolutely worth putting up with such an ordinary experience in order to board in Toronto and then step off in Hong Kong about 16 hours later. No fuss, no muss, no transfers, lay-overs, etc... WIth e-Channel expedited entry, I was on the train to HK in minutes. For someone that is only spending 5 jam-packed nights in HK with little time to spare, the few hours lost diverting to Taipei makes EVA a non-starter. And wishing to keep building my Star Alliance miles for status, Cathay simply won't work. So, as much as AC does a merely acceptable job of getting me from here to there in a manner befitting the money I've laid out, I will take the direct flight every time. Oh, and it also goes without saying the 10 am departure allows me to connect easily from Montreal, and the afternoon departure from HKG is incredibly civilized if you can get a 1 pm check out from your hotel.
#37
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if you want to get there fast, take CX or AC, whatever is cheaper. BR is nice but not sure if the additional travel time is worth it. also consider timings. AC leaves at about 10 am and gets into HKG mid afternoon. CX leaves late night and gets into HKG at abt 6 am. i prefer AC on this count.
#38
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I would fly non-stop if possible. I would also fly AC for the Signature Suite lounge, because the food is fantastic (elite restaurant quality) and it's the best business class lounge in the world. I had a great departure experience and would do it for the lounge. CX has great HKG lounges but the SSL is just so private and chill to be in.
#39
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CX lounges are only better if you're OWE or flying in F. The J class lounges are not sufficiently better than the SQ or TG lounges to warrant making a decision on that basis. If you're in paid J, the signature suite in YYZ is miles ahead of any J class lounge that CX has got.
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https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-paci...g-kong-airport
#41
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I would disagree. The opening in March of The Deck for business class passengers offers an excellent experience when it comes to catering. This recent review with photos highlights this:
https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-paci...g-kong-airport
https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-paci...g-kong-airport
#42
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As far as I can tell the new lounge will maintain the CX J lounges' buffett food and made to order noodle bar, not a la carte table service as is available in the AC SS. So I would still give the edge to AC in this regard, and especially considering the frightful state of YYZ T3 compared to *A lounges in HKG.
The ACSS is far superior.
#44
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Hello all, I would be interested in your thoughts for the most comfortable J flight to Hong Kong. I’m flying from Toronto. I’m ok with connecting flights if the flight experience is good (comfortable private seat, tasty food, any extras like PJs, cool amenities, clean lav, nice lounges/ground experience)
Air Canada is direct, however EVA stops in TPE - on my return will I need to grab my luggage in TPE airport and go through customs?
I’ve never flown Cathay but I heard the planes are generally old.
Thanks for any insight!
Air Canada is direct, however EVA stops in TPE - on my return will I need to grab my luggage in TPE airport and go through customs?
I’ve never flown Cathay but I heard the planes are generally old.
Thanks for any insight!
#45
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I would fly non-stop if possible. I would also fly AC for the Signature Suite lounge, because the food is fantastic (elite restaurant quality) and it's the best business class lounge in the world. I had a great departure experience and would do it for the lounge. CX has great HKG lounges but the SSL is just so private and chill to be in.
Best business lounge in the world? Not in my book as long as LCBO rules the roost.