What is up with TATL fares in mid March?
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I was thinking of starting my own thread about this, but it fits here pretty well.
I have an annual budget for "learning and development". It's fairly large. However, I still have a travel policy. And while it doesn't explicitly say "don't book full Y when Tango K is available", I also don't want to be the guy who ruins something good.
I'm willing to book AC to attend a conference in Europe. However, I want to upgrade. So I want to book PY, Latitude, or Flex. Preferably PY (since it's cheaper than Latitude, and higher onload priority than Lat or Flex).
However, on the dates I looked at (which are pretty fixed because it's a conference), the cheaper of Flex and PY (I think it was PY one way, Flex the other, to get the cheapest upgradeable ticket) is twice the price of "cheapest AC", which is slightly more than "cheapest".
So sure, this means that little old bottom-feeding cow can't upgrade.
Except this travel is entirely discretionary.
So I stay home, and AC gets no money. *A gets no money. No airline gets any money.
They really suck at extracting revenue from discretionary travelers.
I have an annual budget for "learning and development". It's fairly large. However, I still have a travel policy. And while it doesn't explicitly say "don't book full Y when Tango K is available", I also don't want to be the guy who ruins something good.
I'm willing to book AC to attend a conference in Europe. However, I want to upgrade. So I want to book PY, Latitude, or Flex. Preferably PY (since it's cheaper than Latitude, and higher onload priority than Lat or Flex).
However, on the dates I looked at (which are pretty fixed because it's a conference), the cheaper of Flex and PY (I think it was PY one way, Flex the other, to get the cheapest upgradeable ticket) is twice the price of "cheapest AC", which is slightly more than "cheapest".
So sure, this means that little old bottom-feeding cow can't upgrade.
Except this travel is entirely discretionary.
So I stay home, and AC gets no money. *A gets no money. No airline gets any money.
They really suck at extracting revenue from discretionary travelers.
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However, on the dates I looked at (which are pretty fixed because it's a conference), the cheaper of Flex and PY (I think it was PY one way, Flex the other, to get the cheapest upgradeable ticket) is twice the price of "cheapest AC", which is slightly more than "cheapest".
So sure, this means that little old bottom-feeding cow can't upgrade.
Except this travel is entirely discretionary.
So I stay home, and AC gets no money. *A gets no money. No airline gets any money.
They really suck at extracting revenue from discretionary travelers.
Mind you, these fares may come down too. I would not rush. Also, there is always latitude passes. Which I was ready to give up on because P fares often look good; but if the issue of the current thread is here to stay, sure I can change my mind again.
(I am looking at summer already. So far, looks OK.)
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I was thinking of starting my own thread about this, but it fits here pretty well.
I have an annual budget for "learning and development". It's fairly large. However, I still have a travel policy. And while it doesn't explicitly say "don't book full Y when Tango K is available", I also don't want to be the guy who ruins something good.
I'm willing to book AC to attend a conference in Europe. However, I want to upgrade. So I want to book PY, Latitude, or Flex. Preferably PY (since it's cheaper than Latitude, and higher onload priority than Lat or Flex).
However, on the dates I looked at (which are pretty fixed because it's a conference), the cheaper of Flex and PY (I think it was PY one way, Flex the other, to get the cheapest upgradeable ticket) is twice the price of "cheapest AC", which is slightly more than "cheapest".
So sure, this means that little old bottom-feeding cow can't upgrade.
Except this travel is entirely discretionary.
So I stay home, and AC gets no money. *A gets no money. No airline gets any money.
They really suck at extracting revenue from discretionary travelers.
I have an annual budget for "learning and development". It's fairly large. However, I still have a travel policy. And while it doesn't explicitly say "don't book full Y when Tango K is available", I also don't want to be the guy who ruins something good.
I'm willing to book AC to attend a conference in Europe. However, I want to upgrade. So I want to book PY, Latitude, or Flex. Preferably PY (since it's cheaper than Latitude, and higher onload priority than Lat or Flex).
However, on the dates I looked at (which are pretty fixed because it's a conference), the cheaper of Flex and PY (I think it was PY one way, Flex the other, to get the cheapest upgradeable ticket) is twice the price of "cheapest AC", which is slightly more than "cheapest".
So sure, this means that little old bottom-feeding cow can't upgrade.
Except this travel is entirely discretionary.
So I stay home, and AC gets no money. *A gets no money. No airline gets any money.
They really suck at extracting revenue from discretionary travelers.
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You need to plan more in advance.
Mind you, these fares may come down too. I would not rush. Also, there is always latitude passes. Which I was ready to give up on because P fares often look good; but if the issue of the current thread is here to stay, sure I can change my mind again.
(I am looking at summer already. So far, looks OK.)
Mind you, these fares may come down too. I would not rush. Also, there is always latitude passes. Which I was ready to give up on because P fares often look good; but if the issue of the current thread is here to stay, sure I can change my mind again.
(I am looking at summer already. So far, looks OK.)
I have no interesting in flying Y TATL. And I don't need to, so I won't. But it means AC loses my fare.
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I find it funny that people have often said that AP redemptions on this route is highway robbery because YQ is so darn expensive.
You see, Air Canada fixed this problem by then raising prices to astronomical numbers, thus making an AP redemption look cheap.
You see, Air Canada fixed this problem by then raising prices to astronomical numbers, thus making an AP redemption look cheap.
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My kids think so... Taking them to Sydney, Australia for Spring break this year- using up 4 J seats that could have been available for upgrade- sorry guys !!
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Some of us end up paying the difference out of our own pocket... Life is just too short.
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Originally Posted by SKYEG
Depending on where the conference was, I'd still take a few days off work, fly in Y and not worry about AQM. You're pretty privileged regardless brother!.....Flying in Y is much better than some of the days I have work, so I'd do it for sure. Especially if it's a solid city in EU.
Professional development. Set in Europe. For free? Yes please.
Originally Posted by canadiancow
So sure, this means that little old bottom-feeding cow can't upgrade. Except this travel is entirely discretionary. So I stay home...I have no interesting in flying Y TATL. And I don't need to, so I won't.
Originally Posted by canadiancow
But it means AC loses my fare.
Originally Posted by Stranger
Life is just too short.
Last edited by CZAMFlyer; Feb 15, 2018 at 1:38 pm Reason: quote attribution