YYZ-YOW Rapidair - now all E90
Jun 26, 2017, 3:37 am
#61
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Agreed entirely. The extra frequency at peak times has really only added a couple of flights, and does not make up for the diminished capacity. Most brutal of all is the three hour gap between 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. The "increased frequency" has reduced the number of evening flights. Many transborder/international flights arrive just a little too late to connect to the 8 p.m. flight, thus inducing a 3 hour delay. Most annoying!
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Jun 26, 2017, 6:58 am
#62
Join Date: Oct 2015
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For a city of that size, it has plenty of useful flights, including to a heap of intra-provincial destinations, a decent transborder/international lineup, including JFK, EWR, PHL, ORD, IAD, FLL and CDG, and that's not even counting the plethora of sun destinations served in the Caribbean. Passenger traffic at YQB has doubled in the last 10 years and should reach 2 million in a few years. That's not bad at all, considering how close it is to YUL.
The same can't be said about YOW, who's traffic has barely increased by 20% in the same time frame, and has all but stagnated in these last 5 years.
Last edited by thenoflyzone; Jun 26, 2017 at 7:06 am
Jun 26, 2017, 8:54 am
#63
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YOW PAX stats can be found here: https://yow.ca/en/about-yow/facts-and-figures
Year-over-year growth was only 2% last year, but you can also see a shift of Transborder and International numbers to domestic. I believe the change of FRA-YOW from year round to seasonal is partly to blame.
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Year-over-year growth was only 2% last year, but you can also see a shift of Transborder and International numbers to domestic. I believe the change of FRA-YOW from year round to seasonal is partly to blame.
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Jun 26, 2017, 1:06 pm
#65
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Are there any A32S still flying around without Wi-Fi? If so, this is a way to guarantee access.
Incidentally, I just flew an AC E90...with Georgian Airways. Had the same AC seats and still had the Air Canada En Route system.
What for?
Exactly.
Seriously, I don't get it here. I've flown the E-Jet family countless times and would take them, every single time, over a 737 or A32S. It just isn't even a contest in comfort levels. While AC has a marginally wider seat on the Airbus , that is more than made up for by having single seats on the port side of the cabin. The Y experience is absolutely no comparison, as there are no middle seats and the seats are the widest available.
Incidentally, I just flew an AC E90...with Georgian Airways. Had the same AC seats and still had the Air Canada En Route system.
3 hours 58 minutes 
And yes. I have hated this aircraft ever since I set foot on a US Air E170.
Exacerbated when we flew YYZ-YHZ and got thrown all over the sky while on approach. Everybody in J ended up drinking the whole way back to YUL on the diversion.
They feel plasticky, creaky, shoddily-made, and ride HORRENDOUSLY in even the slightest bit of turbulence.
And certainly it is not the same J seat as any of the Airbice.
Plus, at the moment, there's rarely a :45 minute flight YYZ-YOW or v-v. Add 90 minutes due to the crap planning of the runway construction.
And yes. I have hated this aircraft ever since I set foot on a US Air E170.
Exacerbated when we flew YYZ-YHZ and got thrown all over the sky while on approach. Everybody in J ended up drinking the whole way back to YUL on the diversion.
They feel plasticky, creaky, shoddily-made, and ride HORRENDOUSLY in even the slightest bit of turbulence.
And certainly it is not the same J seat as any of the Airbice.
Plus, at the moment, there's rarely a :45 minute flight YYZ-YOW or v-v. Add 90 minutes due to the crap planning of the runway construction.
Jun 26, 2017, 3:37 pm
#66
Join Date: Oct 2015
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YOW PAX stats can be found here: https://yow.ca/en/about-yow/facts-and-figures
Year-over-year growth was only 2% last year, but you can also see a shift of Transborder and International numbers to domestic. I believe the change of FRA-YOW from year round to seasonal is partly to blame.
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Year-over-year growth was only 2% last year, but you can also see a shift of Transborder and International numbers to domestic. I believe the change of FRA-YOW from year round to seasonal is partly to blame.
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Jun 26, 2017, 5:35 pm
#67
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Jun 26, 2017, 11:08 pm
#68
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Jun 29, 2017, 12:28 pm
#69
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Seriously, I don't get it here. I've flown the E-Jet family countless times and would take them, every single time, over a 737 or A32S. It just isn't even a contest in comfort levels. While AC has a marginally wider seat on the Airbus , that is more than made up for by having single seats on the port side of the cabin. The Y experience is absolutely no comparison, as there are no middle seats and the seats are the widest available.
Like I said:
"They feel plasticky, creaky, shoddily-made, and ride HORRENDOUSLY in even the slightest bit of turbulence."
I am probably hyper-sensitive to the ride now after our diverted YYZ-YHZ in 120km/h cross-winds where they tried to land and finally diverted to YUL, but I just cannot do it.
I am a MM on AC and large status on UA, BA, AA, DL...
But being on an Embraer, I literally feel like I'm going to die.
Jun 29, 2017, 12:32 pm
#70
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Jun 29, 2017, 12:58 pm
#71
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I didn't feel at all unsafe in an E90. My discomfort is told in another thread.
E190 uncomfortable
YOW-YYZ sounds the perfect length of flight. Less time for us long torso-ed folk to develop a back ache. Send the A320 family to YHZ instead...
E190 uncomfortable
YOW-YYZ sounds the perfect length of flight. Less time for us long torso-ed folk to develop a back ache. Send the A320 family to YHZ instead...
Jun 30, 2017, 10:16 am
#72
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YYZ-YOW today 30-June
I've made it from LHR to YYZ. Tried to be put on standby when I checked in at LHR, but AC450 was "zeroed out" I was told. Upon landing, the concierge calls to say 450 is cancelled (mechanical) and 452 (my original flight) is delayed. It has also been up-gauged to a A330. All of those Canada Day revellers!
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Jun 30, 2017, 10:33 am
#73
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I've made it from LHR to YYZ. Tried to be put on standby when I checked in at LHR, but AC450 was "zeroed out" I was told. Upon landing, the concierge calls to say 450 is cancelled (mechanical) and 452 (my original flight) is delayed. It has also been up-gauged to a A330. All of those Canada Day revellers!
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I know today is a particularly bad day, being the Friday before a long weekend, but come on AC. Your reduced capacity can't even handle a long weekend in the summer. What are you going to do when it is snowing in January? What a train wreck.
Jun 30, 2017, 10:59 am
#74
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I've made it from LHR to YYZ. Tried to be put on standby when I checked in at LHR, but AC450 was "zeroed out" I was told. Upon landing, the concierge calls to say 450 is cancelled (mechanical) and 452 (my original flight) is delayed. It has also been up-gauged to a A330. All of those Canada Day revellers!
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-5-hour-delay/
Jun 30, 2017, 12:28 pm
#75
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I landed in YVR 90 mins ago. AC340 to YOW is delayed 3 hours. Connect through Toronto instead to get home sooner? "Sorry Mr. RatherBeInYOW, every flight from YYZ to YOW is completely full. If you fly to YYZ you'd be taking your chances on standby."
I know today is a particularly bad day, being the Friday before a long weekend, but come on AC. Your reduced capacity can't even handle a long weekend in the summer. What are you going to do when it is snowing in January? What a train wreck.
I know today is a particularly bad day, being the Friday before a long weekend, but come on AC. Your reduced capacity can't even handle a long weekend in the summer. What are you going to do when it is snowing in January? What a train wreck.
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