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VDB, IDB and Compensation - Master Thread
I searched for a recent generic thread where we can collect information, numerical data and announcements from Air Canada on the issue of VDB, IDB and Compensation. Perhaps we could make this a FAQ, add a wiki, etc.
Given the events of this past week on other airlines, AC FT should have a central resource. Perhaps the AC FT Collective can decide how to format this thread, which of the older threads to delete and so on. I did find these threads so I'll include them as reference as they are not recent. 2017 Does AC give cash for giving up seat on oversold flights? Will it raise VDB amounts? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...d-flights.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ed-flight.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-overbook.html 2016 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ng-cheque.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...db-vs-vdb.html 2015 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...pensation.html 2014-2015 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...pensation.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...pensation.html 2013-2015 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...gers-more.html 2014 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ng-bumped.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...k-idb-vdb.html . |
Originally Posted by 24left
(Post 28179724)
I searched for a recent generic thread where we can collect information, numerical data and announcements from Air Canada on the issue of VDB, IDB and Compensation. Perhaps we could make this a FAQ, add a wiki, etc.
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As per link in the wiki, screen shot here
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Does Air Canada overbook its flights? Just the facts: Yes, we do.
Originally Posted by 24left
(Post 28179823)
As per link in the wiki, screen shot here
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How about providing a record of compensation?
Date of Flight: Flight/Route: Type (Voluntary or Involuntary): Compensation Paid: |
Added to Wiki
Air Canada - General Conditions of Carriage - Overbooking Notice |
I think there's a typo in the screen cap.
It says "offer". |
Its interesting how AC did not specified overbooking is limited to Y only...
Does this mean what I think it means? |
Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
(Post 28180093)
Its interesting how AC did not specified overbooking is limited to Y only...
Does this mean what I think it means? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...ess-class.html Another interesting thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...verbooked.html And this post. He is a pilot.
Originally Posted by smoothride
(Post 24934778)
There are a few inaccuracies above...
Air Canada Captains deadhead in confirmed J. Then the upgrade list is cleared. If there is still open J space, an Air Canada First Officer will get priority for the open J seat over any other deadheading employee. |
Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
(Post 28180093)
Its interesting how AC did not specified overbooking is limited to Y only...
Does this mean what I think it means? I haven't heard anything on the PY front, but there's no harm in Selling 25/24 in PY if you have a free seat in J. You just don't want to overbook your highest cabin. |
Will AC step up?
News from Delta:
"Customer service agents will be able to offer passengers as much as $2,000 when they’re asked to give up a seat on an oversold flight, up from $800, according to a memo seen by Bloomberg. Managers can offer as much as $9,950, more than seven times the previous cap of $1,350, the memo dated April 13 says." Bloomberg/AP So will AC match Delta or drag their feet and wait for the government to tell them how they should treat their passengers? |
Originally Posted by Northern Canuck
(Post 28180365)
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http://www.jaysona.com/ACTrackr.png So will AC match Delta or drag their feet and wait for the government to tell them how they should treat their passengers? As far as I am concerned I think AC should offer what ever the market will bear. If someone is willing to be /VDBIDB for $200, then why would anyone expect AC to offer more? As for passenger treatment, I think the passengers need to spend a little more effort in taking responsibility at understanding just what type of financial contract they are entering into when they purchase their airplane ticket. As with all purchases caveat emptor equally applies to airplane tickets purchased for any airlines. Time for people to start taking responsibilty for themselves and stop acting like helpless children as asking for the gov't to control and regulate their lives. |
Originally Posted by jaysona
(Post 28180383)
As far as I am concerned I think AC should offer what ever the market will bear. If someone is willing to be /VDBIDB for $200, then why would anyone expect AC to offer more?
If $15,000, then 15K. We know it would never reach that point, but you get my point. |
jaysona, my point was will AC empower their customer services agents and managers to offer up to the limits Delta is allowing not will AC pay $9950 to free up a seat. Who knows, if AC continues to treat its customers like self loading cargo the government may step in like they did in Europe.
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Originally Posted by CanRulez
(Post 28180389)
AC should just eliminate the cap altogether. Whatever the market demands...so if $200, then $200.
If $15,000, then 15K. We know it would never reach that point, but you get my point.
Originally Posted by Northern Canuck
(Post 28180482)
jaysona, my point was will AC empower their customer services agents and managers to offer up to the limits Delta is allowing not will AC pay $9950 to free up a seat. Who knows, if AC continues to treat its customers like self loading cargo the government may step in like they did in Europe.
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