Shooting at FLL Airport T2 [AC Terminal]
 

This is the terminal that is used by Delta and Air Canada in FLL, very compact. Hope all AC travellers [well, everyone!] are ok:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/06/us/for...ent/index.html

"At least nine people were injured in a shooting at the Fort Lauderdale airport on Friday, a US official familiar with the incident said. The shooter is in custody, according to the official.

Parts of the airport were apparently evacuated. Aerial footage from CNN affiliates showed large groups of people standing outside on the tarmac."

looking live right now there are no AC birds at the gates....might be a positive thing for AC pax....not in the terminal then...very sad....

Live mayhem

pax running all over the tarmac. casualties

http://miami.cbslocal.com/show/cbsmi...-video-page-2/

Some AC flights listed as delayed, including a YUL 8 hours

FLL is not allowing flight arrivals. Some have been sent to MIA....

Look at the 2 Rouge flight waiting in line along with other flights

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OMG pax running toward the North runway

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Apparently terminal 1 has now been evacuated too.

Look at the pax on the runway

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Just saw one of the 2 Rouge flights sitting in a long line on the ground

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ABC Affiliate (Channel 10) just noted that alleged shooter arrived on a 'Canadian' flight with a gun as checked baggage, loaded it in restroom in arrivals area, and then began shooting.

MSNBC Live said the shooter was a passenger on AC.

http://www.mississauga.com/news-stor...derdale-safe-/

TORONTO — A spokesman for Air Canada says all its passengers and employees at the Fort Lauderdale, Fl., airport are "accounted for and safe" following a mass shooting that has left several people dead.

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Air Canada spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick says in an email that passengers on the airline's departing flights were safely evacuated on the tarmac.

From usatoday.com:

FLL is a popular destination for Québécois...

http://www.lapresse.ca/international...appe-belle.php

And

"Santiago is a 26-year-old U.S. citizen, born in New Jersey, Fox News reported.

A law enforcement source additionally told the outlet the suspect had a concealed carry permit and a Florida driver’s license."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2937904


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Does anyone know if those AC flights have been able to unload pax? CBS local in FLL interviewed a couple who said they were waiting for their granddaughter who was sitting on the AC aircraft, communicating by phone with her saying they could not get to the gate.

Wouldn't be too quick on that shooter arrived on a Canadian plane apparently, unless it is Sunwing or Transat.

AC 1622- from YYZ- Scheduled at 12:08
Transat 570 from YYZ- Landed at 12:47
Westjet 1282 from YOW- Landed at 12:31

CBS is reporting he was a pax on an AC flight and his weapon was in his checked luggage. OMG.

Edit: I stand corrected

checked guns in luggage?
 

I would not be surprised if TSA will put an end to the ability to check a handgun in luggage. That will likely be the end of that.

Honestly, I am surprised that we can still do this. We can't bring a water bottle on the plane, but we can check a handgun? Yeah, pretty strange.

And now they are saying he didn't arrive from Canada but rather flew from ANC to MSP to FLL. Wonder if someone stupidly thought Alaska was in Canada.

AP is now reporting he travelled from Anchorage, via MSP, to FLL, with a legally checked gun.

In all the confusion, anything is possible!!

Perhaps they should put a stop to bottles of water in your checked luggage as well, due to the potential for it's use in waterboarding by the CIA.

If we could please narrow the focus of this thread to how the event impacts Air Canada, its staff and/or passengers or schedules and leave the wider discussion about security policies, firearms or other matters to alternate FT threads on this matter.

Thanks,

tcook052
AC forum moderator

Quote from Global News

"An Air Canada spokesperson confirmed its passengers and employees were safe and accounted for.

“We are deeply saddened by this tragic event that occurred at Fort Lauderdale Airport Terminal 2 today,” the airline said in a statement. “Passengers on our departing flights were safely evacuated on the tarmac and arriving flights 1602 from YUL and 1622 from YYZ are being held off gate for the time being.”"

http://globalnews.ca/news/3165048/la...oting-florida/

My wife just said CNN reported passenger had travelled from Alaska to Ft Lauderdale via Canada. I replied instantly "not possible. cabotage."

+++worth repeating

...in the face of acts of violence, I for one will solely advance goodwill to those negatively affected, and be patient to await the results of the investigation.

Anything more in the absence of further evidence is :td:...:(

Where does this fall in the IRROPS category? Is it like weather? Will Air Canada regard this as a matter outside of their control and treat passengers accordingly?

http://www.aircanada.com/en/news/170106.html

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AC tweeted "We confirm that we have no record of such a passenger by that name, or checked guns, on any of our flights to Fort Lauderdale."

I thought the same thing. I saw on another thread that they were reporting he flew from Anchorage to FLL via MSP, so my first thought was, surely that'd be Delta, not AC, right?

Not sure why it matters. Except that my US friends are suddenly asking me about Canada's gun laws with respect to checked luggage, and I have to admit I don't have a clue 'cause I've never owned a gun and don't know anyone who does. It does strike me as odd that a gun and ammunition would be allowed in luggage, when even a water bottle isn't.

Oh, and as for details, this one's always worth a repost at times like this:

http://peroty.com/blog/wp-content/up...ooter-Info.png

As for the news reporting that he arrived on AC to FLL, it can't be helped that AC and DL share the same terminal. In the mayhem of miscommunication that surrounds these events, it became a bad case of broken telephone.

It is rather unfortunate that AC may have to spend time clearing that up assuming the world media don't correct themselves.

Air Canada's requirements to transport firearms can be found here.

http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...quip.html#none

I would expect uncontrollable and hold any airline accountable to only that standard.

AC or DL, I don't see how the actions of one former passenger affects the reputation of the airline, especially after he (and his baggage) were safely carried to final destination. I suppose if he later said the flight angered him over the edge? Bad snacks?

Steady stream of checked guns (rifles) and ammunition to and from Canada during hunting season.

nothing odd about it at all

I'm watching Fox news and whomever they contracted with as the onsite reporter is still saying a Canadian airline then goes on to say he went ANC-MSP-FLL

oy vey

I know as FT'ers we know this stuff off the top of our head (had to be DL) but geez after the statements by the Canadian embassy one would think that they would at least hold off on that Canadian airline part

"He left Anchorage, Alaska at 10.02pm local last night, flew overnight to Minneapolis and changed there to another Delta flight to Fort Lauderdale, which was due to arrive at 12.12pm local time on Friday."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7513976.html


So, how is AC going to deal with the media who keep repeating he flew them?


And perhaps start with this person

"Earlier, Chip LaMarca, a Broward County commissioner told the Associated Press the suspect was a passenger flight on a Canadian flight."

http://globalnews.ca/news/3165466/fo...ed-as-shooter/

The suspect was a passenger flight?!?!

Was anyone on him?

That's exactly how Global reported it. No time for proofreading.

As of this moment both rouge flights (1602 and 1622) are still on the taxiway and are unable to offload pax.

Once everything is clear I believe 1602 will leave for MIA.

All flight between YUL/YYZ-FLL have been CXX for the night.

ROU1652 YUL-MIA up gaged to B763 to fly extra pax down.

Tomorrow all FLL flights seem to be on time.

Extra sections created for YUL-MIA AC2050 departure at 10am B77W and ROU1990 B763 departure at 6am
Extra section created for YYZ-MIA AC2040 departure at 8:10am B77L.