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AirCanadaFlyer Dec 1, 2014 7:29 pm

E75 - a failed SE?
 
You know how they say that Jupiter is a failed sun? Aren't E75's failed SE's? I frown upon these people that do MR's and want the same status as me...

montezume Dec 1, 2014 7:36 pm

Good point. I personally feel that AC should start adding tiers to SE based on spend.

How about SE CHARITY, SAPPHIRE, TITANIUM and the highest category, SSE (super SUPER elite). Then they can start really distinguishing between those who achieve the status through status runs, and those who really add value to the brand. Plus, they could make nice charity luggage tags.

YEG_SE4Life Dec 1, 2014 7:40 pm

The fact that someone doesn't spend as much time in an airplane as you does not make them a failure. If achieving S100K is important to them, let them do what they must to get there. A MR is simply putting on the necessary miles.

LockheedElectra Dec 1, 2014 8:10 pm


Originally Posted by montezume (Post 23926824)
Good point. I personally feel that AC should start adding tiers to SE based on spend.

How about SE CHARITY, SAPPHIRE, TITANIUM and the highest category, SSE (super SUPER elite). Then they can start really distinguishing between those who achieve the status through status runs, and those who really add value to the brand. Plus, they could make nice charity luggage tags.

HA! you only named 3 classes when clearly there should be 4. How about SE BF (Bottom Feeder)?

Edit, oops my bad, you did add 4, but I still think one should be BF, it could stand for anything that matches the letters BF...

24left Dec 1, 2014 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926802)
You know how they say that Jupiter is a failed sun? Aren't E75's failed SE's? I frown upon these people that do MR's and want the same status as me...


Ah, I see you're back. And started a new thread.

I'm still laughing from your post in the other thread and I'm still offering to shake you hand in a MLL, but now I've upped the requirement - not only must you wear a sign, but also a bell.



Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926320)
Year after year I fly 200k+ only to stand in line with E75's, E50's, E35's and the rest of the bottom feeders. I think these are great changes and I am looking forward to giving E75's the finger as I board Zone 1 on my next flight.
Stop complaining and start flying.


And I posted a reply there for you:D

24left Dec 1, 2014 8:24 pm


Originally Posted by montezume (Post 23926824)
Good point. I personally feel that AC should start adding tiers to SE based on spend.

How about SE CHARITY, SAPPHIRE, TITANIUM and the highest category, SSE (super SUPER elite). Then they can start really distinguishing between those who achieve the status through status runs, and those who really add value to the brand. Plus, they could make nice charity luggage tags.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL

This is hilarious. :D:D:D

24left Dec 1, 2014 8:25 pm


Originally Posted by LockheedElectra (Post 23926972)
HA! you only named 3 classes when clearly there should be 4. How about SE BF (Bottom Feeder)?

Edit, oops my bad, you did add 4, but I still think one should be BF, it could stand for anything that matches the letters BF...


+1 :D

I think you should all start designing the new luggage tags

agjil Dec 1, 2014 8:48 pm

If only AC could add some meaningful benefits to the E75 tier, maybe they would not do as much MRs to get to SE!

LockheedElectra Dec 1, 2014 8:49 pm


Originally Posted by 24left (Post 23927029)
+1 :D

I think you should all start designing the new luggage tags

Saaaaayyyyy! That's not a bad idea, designing the BF one could be tricky though :p

LockheedElectra Dec 1, 2014 8:52 pm


Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926802)
You know how they say that Jupiter is a failed sun? Aren't E75's failed SE's? I frown upon these people that do MR's and want the same status as me...

Well, I've never done a mileage run, and I just crossed the MM threshold, so unless you are MM as well, I am officially better than you. Hopefully you aren't 2MM, that would sting.

Oh, and the only people that would call Jupiter a failed sun are those that know nothing about Jupiter.

HerpaYvr Dec 1, 2014 9:29 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer View Post

Year after year I fly 200k+ only to stand in line with E75's, E50's, E35's and the rest of the bottom feeders. I think these are great changes and I am looking forward to giving E75's the finger as I board Zone 1 on my next flight.
Stop complaining and start flying.



Wow, its comments like this I often wonder why my friends and I put our lives on the line when we were fighting for our country, to defend our way of life. I guess in all societies we have areas to improve on.

Although I am SE, I be sure to return your salute if I see it!

superangrypenguin Dec 1, 2014 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926802)
You know how they say that Jupiter is a failed sun? Aren't E75's failed SE's? I frown upon these people that do MR's and want the same status as me...

Well, that's just sad. Perhaps you have failed at life's natural meaning. Having kids, a strong marriage are things that are much harder to do for a SE. Most on my team have lost their marriages due to extensive flying. Some have regrets, some don't. I thought about MRing to HKG to hit SE. And then I thought how pathetic that sounds (to me). Life is more than sitting in a tin tube
If that's your thing than great, but I also think that many super elites have "failed" in life. (natural normal meaning)***I am using your definition, not mine. (saying that if one doesn't spend their life flying that they are a failure). That's the glass half full half empty view.

And you are the one who started this judging comment. Enjoy life in a tin tube by yourself feeling superior to everyone else.

What's next? Lets judge income level.:rolleyes: I'd love to have a go at that. See how ridiculous that sounds? Mr. DYKWIA...:rolleyes:

maradori Dec 1, 2014 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 23927392)
Well, that's just sad. Perhaps you have failed at life's natural meaning. Having kids, a strong marriage are things that are much harder to do for a SE. Most on my team have lost their marriages due to extensive flying.

Being single is great :D

I'd rather take the $ saved from NOT needing to raise children to requalify for SE :D

Plus, no idea why rational men would willingly choose to marry and lose their freedom :rolleyes:

canadiancow Dec 1, 2014 10:25 pm

Oh god this thread...

DaveObee Dec 1, 2014 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 23927420)
Oh god this thread...

OK, now we're getting somewhere.

somedude3210 Dec 1, 2014 10:38 pm

Ah so Joe Kickass found flyertalk?

i59bravo Dec 1, 2014 11:08 pm

Personally, I think it's time to abolish all status tiers below the rank of SE. We all know that FF benefits are expensive, so really AC should stop wasting money on the failures so that they can focus their resources and restore benefits to SEs. An E35 isn't fit to breathe the same air as the Princes of the Airline.

superangrypenguin Dec 1, 2014 11:23 pm


Originally Posted by maradori (Post 23927406)
Being single is great :D

I'd rather take the $ saved from NOT needing to raise children to requalify for SE :D

Plus, no idea why rational men would willingly choose to marry and lose their freedom :rolleyes:

Hey, who am I to judge? The OP is basically saying your success in life is based on your Air Canada status - a marketing program. LOL :D

Now hey, life's full of choices and i'm not knocking his, I just find it funny/odd that he knocks the rest of society. :rolleyes: If I was single, i'd rather spend that money on a house/car, but that's my opinion. If people want to give money to a faceless company for a baggage tag and to board before others, then great - totally respect that. (or to feel the love of concierges, although I can feel the love of a hot female for much less, just saying). He has his opinion, I have mine. I fly for work, not pleasure...

superangrypenguin Dec 1, 2014 11:25 pm


Originally Posted by somedude3210 (Post 23927470)
Ah so Joe Kickass found flyertalk?

LOL. :D Anyways, i'm not participating in this thread anymore. CanadianCow's post about sums it up. :) Cheers. Hope AC tucks you in at night with a smile!

Not sure if you are serious or not, but if you are, I hope this helps:

I used to be like you, always worrying about my benefits from AC (cue the devaluations) and what I "get" from the airline (and looking at 35K's like they don't deserve to breathe the same air as me). I thought about doing a MR to SE and then it hit me. What the hell has AC done to me? I'm worrying about FF benefits and getting all worked up? I then laughed (at myself) and looked at my passion (aviation) a whole lot differently - and as objectively as possible. I hope you find that in your life one day. Otherwise you'll end up like Ryan Bingham. Sure, your name (well actually yours wont) may be on the side of a plane. But you are nothing compared to some FTers on here who put your miles in 4 months (now that's respect - and i've seen the proof). (and that's by your definition, since you care so much about your Altitude status). You're a rounding error to the true legends on FT. I hope that this post helps you find your peace. And those legends - pfft they could care less about the FF benefits as it doesn't even affect them - since they fly THAT much. They don't even care about priority boarding since they've worked down their entire process to the exact minute. Are they condescending as per your post? Nope, their attitude is truly the opposite. And I hold them in the highest regard because of the miles they put up (and how easily they make that look) and because of their attitude.

Have fun in the skies!

OilyDuck Dec 1, 2014 11:30 pm

As a paid J cabin traveller I can’t stand being seated next to these FFM’s (frequent flyer mooches). They reek of entitlement and MLL pasta… ;)

FlyerTalker683455 Dec 2, 2014 12:01 am


Originally Posted by OilyDuck (Post 23927642)
As a paid J cabin traveller I can’t stand being seated next to these FFM’s (frequent flyer mooches). They reek of entitlement and MLL pasta… ;)

I am going to have to buy J fares to stop feeling cheap. (but it won't be on AC!)

24left Dec 2, 2014 12:37 am


Originally Posted by maradori (Post 23927406)
Being single is great :D
I'd rather take the $ saved from NOT needing to raise children to requalify for SE :D


^^^^^^^:D:D:D:D:D

24left Dec 2, 2014 12:37 am


Originally Posted by OilyDuck (Post 23927642)
As a paid J cabin traveller I can’t stand being seated next to these FFM’s (frequent flyer mooches). They reek of entitlement and MLL pasta… ;)

LOLOL

margauxleah Dec 2, 2014 12:48 am

Ahhhh boy - you all are great

Prewrappedbacon Dec 2, 2014 7:00 am

E75 - a failed SE?
 
This is hilarious.

rankourabu Dec 2, 2014 7:10 am

"Year after year I fly 200k+"

Now, outside of FT, this would be the definition of sad.

airbus320 Dec 2, 2014 7:38 am

Rule # 1 on the forum....

Don"t feed the trolls. :)

CanRulez Dec 2, 2014 8:07 am

what a sad thread....to think some folks get so much satisfaction out of boarding first....LOL.

L O S E R

HometoYYZ Dec 2, 2014 8:59 am

This thread should have been titled "A Modest Proposal for Preventing the E75 From Being a Burden to SEs and Making Them Beneficial to the Airline"

Lost opportunity, OP.

bimmerdriver Dec 2, 2014 11:33 am


Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926802)
You know how they say that Jupiter is a failed sun? Aren't E75's failed SE's? I frown upon these people that do MR's and want the same status as me...

Troll.

24left Dec 2, 2014 11:39 am


Originally Posted by HometoYYZ (Post 23929468)
This thread should have been titled "A Modest Proposal for Preventing the E75 From Being a Burden to SEs and Making Them Beneficial to the Airline"


Yay for Borat!!!!!

24left Dec 2, 2014 11:57 am

So here were are, watching everyone get their shorts in a tangle. Why?



Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926802)
You know how they say that Jupiter is a failed sun? Aren't E75's failed SE's? I frown upon these people that do MR's and want the same status as me...

In the other thread he wrote:


Originally Posted by AirCanadaFlyer (Post 23926320)
Year after year I fly 200k+ only to stand in line with E75's, E50's, E35's and the rest of the bottom feeders. I think these are great changes and I am looking forward to giving E75's the finger as I board Zone 1 on my next flight.
Stop complaining and start flying.


I know from reading this thread and the other one where similar comments were posted by the same person, that it seems a small number of us didn't take him/her seriously, and just decided to have some fun with it.

Others got all worked up. For what?

Sometimes you just have to step back, forget about who is a troll or not, or serious or not, and do what I did, throw the ball back onto the field. :D


P.S. The little exchange was lots of fun. I am sure chaptwo, OilyDuck, margauxleah and Prewrappedbacon got it, well, at least they also laughed

Just saying people.....

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...015-a-236.html

airbus320 Dec 2, 2014 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by 24left (Post 23930586)
So here were are, watching everyone get their shorts in a tangle. Why?




In the other thread he wrote:




I know from reading this thread and the other one where similar comments were posted by the same person, that it seems a small number of us didn't take him/her seriously, and just decided to have some fun with it.

Others got all worked up. For what?

Sometimes you just have to step back, forget about who is a troll or not, or serious or not, and do what I did, throw the ball back onto the field. :D


P.S. The little exchange was lots of fun. I am sure chaptwo, OilyDuck, margauxleah and Prewrappedbacon got it, well, at least they also laughed

Just saying people.....

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...015-a-236.html

Great.....just what the forum needed....a postulant for moderator. :p

24left Dec 2, 2014 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by airbus320 (Post 23931180)
Great.....just what the forum needed....a postulant for moderator. :p


Not my intent.

LockheedElectra Dec 2, 2014 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by airbus320 (Post 23931180)
Great.....just what the forum needed....a postulant for moderator. :p

Well, people are taking this one a little too seriously, so I think we should get back to the real issue here, is Jupiter a failed sun? Of course not:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...d-people-call/

The best part of that article is the forum below, those ST'ers make FT'ers look like rocket scientists ;)

24left Dec 2, 2014 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by LockheedElectra (Post 23931314)
Well, people are taking this one a little too seriously, so I think we should get back to the real issue here, is Jupiter a failed sun? Of course not:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...d-people-call/

The best part of that article is the forum below, those ST'ers make FT'ers look like rocket scientists ;)


LOLOLOL. :D:D:D Thanks for your post LockheedElectra.

You're right. Those comments are hilarious, almost a combo between "mine is bigger" and the failed educational efforts of well, you know...
"hey u cant just say it isn't a star maybe it is we dont know yet but i hope we get to figure it out soon because it is really interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! maybe it is a star just heating up"

Shareholder Dec 2, 2014 3:35 pm


Originally Posted by montezume (Post 23926824)
Good point. I personally feel that AC should start adding tiers to SE based on spend.

How about SE CHARITY, SAPPHIRE, TITANIUM and the highest category, SSE (super SUPER elite). Then they can start really distinguishing between those who achieve the status through status runs, and those who really add value to the brand. Plus, they could make nice charity luggage tags.

Given the reduction of mileage on low fares even non-AC flights, there's no real value in trying for SE through MRs. Let's face it, those who work for companies that pay high fares are now the monarchs of the air. As I wrote months ago, and as was seized on in the NYTimes this past weekend, the airlines have joined the gap between rich and poor and top elite tiers are now comprised of the 1% just as the rest of NAmerican society. Enjoy the ride on the largess of your employer or client...and their shareholders and the taxpayers who subsidize those high fare deductions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/30/op...ugly.html?_r=0

capebretonboy Dec 2, 2014 4:02 pm


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 23927392)
Well, that's just sad. Perhaps you have failed at life's natural meaning. Having kids, a strong marriage are things that are much harder to do for a SE. Most on my team have lost their marriages due to extensive flying. Some have regrets, some don't. I thought about MRing to HKG to hit SE. And then I thought how pathetic that sounds (to me). Life is more than sitting in a tin tube
If that's your thing than great, but I also think that many super elites have "failed" in life. (natural normal meaning)***I am using your definition, not mine. (saying that if one doesn't spend their life flying that they are a failure). That's the glass half full half empty view.

And you are the one who started this judging comment. Enjoy life in a tin tube by yourself feeling superior to everyone else.

What's next? Lets judge income level.:rolleyes: I'd love to have a go at that. See how ridiculous that sounds? Mr. DYKWIA...:rolleyes:

Hear hear! I think people who post garbage like the OP did (maybe it was tongue in cheek??) lack happiness in all or most other aspects of their life, are not truly "elite" in the traditional socio-economic sense, and so they fly around on their company's dime and obtaining SE is the only "socio economic" status they will ever achieve. Oh, and they like to be jerks about it. The class system is perpetuated in airlines but without the class.

Sad, sad, sad the kind of behavior FF tiers bring out in people.

capebretonboy Dec 2, 2014 4:06 pm


Originally Posted by airbus320 (Post 23929085)
Rule # 1 on the forum....

Don"t feed the trolls. :)

Oops! Too late.

respectable_man Dec 2, 2014 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by montezume (Post 23926824)
How about SE CHARITY, SAPPHIRE, TITANIUM and the highest category, SSE (super SUPER elite). Then they can start really distinguishing between those who achieve the status through status runs, and those who really add value to the brand. Plus, they could make nice charity luggage tags.

Sorry but "SSE" is already taken.


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