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Important updates to Air Canada Altitude in 2015 23 October

This afternoon, we will be announcing changes to certain elements of Air Canada Altitude in 2015, as well as new features to the program.

Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement
The Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement to reach Altitude status for 2016 is increasing. To qualify for Altitude status in 2016, the following Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement will need to be met:
• Prestige 25K: 12,500 AQM /12 AQS
• Elite 35K: 17,500 AQM /17 AQS
• Elite 50K: 25,000 AQM /25 AQS
• Elite 75K: 37,500 AQM / 37 AQS
• Super Elite 100K: 50,000 AQM / 47 AQS
The new MFR will not impact qualification for Altitude 2015.

500 Mile Minimum
For travel as of March 1, 2015, mileage accrual will no longer be rounded up to a 500 Mile minimum. Miles earned will be based on the distance flown and the fare option purchased for flights operated by Air Canada, Air Canada Express, Air Canada rouge and Star Alliance™ member airlines.

eUpgrades to Business Class
For eUpgrade requests made on or after March 1, 2015, the number of eUpgrade Credits required to upgrade is increasing. The number of eUpgrade Credits you can earn through the Threshold eUpgrades program is also changing. These changes were made following a thorough benchmarking of the upgrades practices of other major international airlines who often limit international upgrades solely to their highest membership tier, and often severely limit the number of upgrades a member may request over the course of a year.

We will also be expanding the “high Flex” eligibility category to include the “U” and “H” booking classes on the Domestic, Transborder and Sun markets, as well as the “U” booking class on International markets. The inclusion of these booking classes within the ‘higher Flex’ eligibility category actually decreases the number of credits required to upgrade flights on certain markets when compared to 2014.

For eUpgrade credit requirements as of March 1, 2015, visit: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...e/updates.html

eUpgrades to Premium Economy
In early 2015, you will be able to access the comfort of Premium Economy using eUpgrade Credits, when upgrading from an eligible fare. eUpgrade Add-ons will not apply for these upgrades.

eUpgrade Nominees
Beginning March 1, 2015, Altitude Super Elite™ 100K members will be entitled to share their eUpgrade privileges with one eUpgrade Nominee. Members will maintain their ability to share their eUpgrade privileges with Travel Companions.

Priority Boarding
In early 2015, a new streamlined boarding process will be introduced to ensure that you get even more out of the Priority Boarding privilege.

Complimentary access to International Maple Leaf Lounges and Star Alliance Business Lounges
As lounge occupancy grows, many of our lounges are at capacity levels. And while we continue to invest in many lounge expansion projects, the reality is that in many locations, additional space is simply not available. At the same time, benchmarking shows us that our eligibility polices are still over-indexed as compared to many of our competitors. In particular, access to lounges is not a privilege offered by most international airlines at the 35,000 qualifying miles level. We have therefore modified our policy whereby Elite 35K members will continue to have access to Maple Leaf Lounges located in the domestic and trans-border departure zones, as well as those in Los Angeles and New York (LaGuardia). However access to International Maple Leaf Lounges or Star Alliance Business lounges will no longer be available as a Select Privilege. Instead, an option to purchase a Maple Leaf Club membership will be introduced with a 50% discount.

Priority Rewards
In order to maintain the integrity of the Priority Reward privilege for eligible Altitude members, Priority Rewards will be limited to ten (10) reservations (with up to 9 passengers each) per member per benefit period, beginning March 1, 2015. While a thorough analysis has indicated that this change will not impact the vast majority of members (over 95%), it will allow us to maintain a benefit which we know is widely appreciated.

Flight Rewards for Premium Economy
In early 2015, you will be able to redeem Aeroplan miles for seats in the Premium Economy cabin on Air Canada. Details will be coming soon.

Fuel Surcharge on Flight Rewards & Flight Reward change fee waivers
For reservations made as of March 1, 2015, the fuel surcharges on ClassicFlight rewards for travel within Canada and between Canada and the U.S. will be waived for all Altitude members (ie. 25K and higher) . This is applicable on flights operated by Air Canada, Air Canada Express and Air Canada rouge.

At the same time, Aeroplan Flight Reward change fee waivers for Super Elite 100K members will no longer be available for changes made on or after March 1, 2015. However, the fuel surcharges on ClassicFlight Rewards for travel between Canada and international destinations will be waived for Super Elite 100K members on flights operated by Air Canada, Air Canada Express and Air Canada rouge.

For a complete list of details regarding these changes, visit http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...e/updates.html

New REVISED REVISIONS to the Altitude Program (Oct 31 email)

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Last week, changes to Air Canada Altitude™ for 2015 were announced. As always, we’ve been listening to your feedback and will be adjusting certain elements of the program accordingly.

Threshold eUpgrades
The amount of eUpgrade Credits offered through the Threshold eUpgrade program will increase. As of 100,000 Altitude Qualifying Miles or 100 Altitude Qualifying Segments, 20 eUpgrade Credits will be awarded for every 40,000 AQM or 40 AQS flown.

eUpgrade Validity Date
eUpgrade Credits earned on or after November 7, 2014 will be valid until February 29, 2016.
Additionally, eUpgrade Credits earned on or after November 1, 2015 will be valid until February 28, 2017.

Mile Minimum
For travel from March 1, 2015 onwards, all Altitude members will earn a minimum of 250 miles on flights operated by Air Canada, Air Canada Express and Air Canada rouge as well as Star Alliance™ member airlines.

Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement
For non-Canadian residents, the Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement needed to reach Altitude status in 2016 will be 50% lower than the recently published Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement.
These changes are representative of Air Canada’s focus on recognizing our most valued and important members. We remain committed to offering you one of the best frequent flyer programs in the industry.

Air Canada
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr76
Looks like AC has silently updated the Threshold levels for 2015:

http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...e/updates.html

If you click on the Threshold eUpgrades link you'll see that they're giving 20 e-credits every 40k after 100k (so 140k, 180k, 220k etc.)

To compare:

SE @140k - 97 credits (2014) ; 40 credits (2015 original) ; 60 credits (2015 modified)

SE @220k - 163 credits (2014) ; 70 credits (2015 original) ; 100 credits (2015 modified)

Looks like a carrot for SEs who fly 150k+ but no modifications to 20K and 40K.
This makes my spreadsheet look better. I believe with these changes that I would have enough eUPs to keep pace with my 2014 upgraded travel....including any carryover from 2014.

Also, will cross 200k on Nov 8 and then 220k soon after so can carry over a nice chunk into next year.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 6:59 pm
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This is a good thing, unfortunately just not good enough for me to stay, not that it'll matter to them since they'll still get revenue from my company for me to fly, I just won't credit my points to AP.

I'm happy to see more eUPgrades will be given, but it's still more credits required than before which hurts. Making them essentially roll over is nice if you end the year with extras, I don't, so it doesn't help me, I was usually getting the 500mile minimum so getting 250 doesn't exactly appease me, the % of AC metal makes great sense, the number was way too high before. The original number was too low, 25-35% is the sweet spot. That shouldn't be hard for most people.

I'm gonna credit to UA, it might end up being a mistake in the long run, but it won't be a big one cuz the only thing I'll lose is the ability to upgrade on my little YVR-YYC flights. For the couple times a year I take a flight cross country or to the USA on AC then I can tough it out and sit with the plebes . From my reading it doesn't sound like I'll get many upgrades at all at UA but that's ok since I wasn't gonna get too many here either. I prefer their network and once they either update all those Airbus or ditch em then I won't have any issues with the fleet, that's my biggest problem now is YVR-ORD no tv, YVR-DEN, YVR-IAH (sometimes) ...YVR is cursed!

EDIT: I didn't understand the new eUPs only kick in after 100k I thought they were giving them out at 40,000 intervals from 0...in this case it makes it even less appealing to me because I won't hit 100k I did it this year based solely on segments. I'm ok with being "forced" out I know I was kinda gaming the system.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
I've been hitting refresh 3 times a minute. Maybe it's because it's holloween, but i'm surprised the SE's who fly a f*** ton aren't as happy as I thought you folks would be that this is a softer blow with the threshold changes?
The threshold eUpgrade still provides me with no incentives to even get to 60K with AC before my first eUpgrade. I had proposed leaving the threshold where they are today, but instead of total AQM, make the requirement AC metal AQM. This method would reward more eUps to flyers like myself and you who fly mostly domestic and/ore transborder. With the increased eUps required to sit in J, the eUps will be burned through 33% faster already. In addition, 25K, 35K and even 50K have relatively low chances of upgrade that I see no need to give them even less incentive to try hitting the threshold.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:01 pm
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Well well... Interesting. This just out from Air Canada:


Last week, changes to Air Canada Altitude™ for 2015 were announced. As always, we’ve been listening to your feedback and will be adjusting certain elements of the program accordingly.

Threshold eUpgrades
The amount of eUpgrade Credits offered through the Threshold eUpgrade program will increase. As of 100,000 Altitude Qualifying Miles or 100 Altitude Qualifying Segments, 20 eUpgrade Credits will be awarded for every 40,000 AQM or 40 AQS flown.

eUpgrade Validity Date
eUpgrade Credits earned on or after November 7, 2014 will be valid until February 29, 2016.
Additionally, eUpgrade Credits earned on or after November 1, 2015 will be valid until February 28, 2017.
Mile Minimum

For travel from March 1, 2015 onwards, all Altitude members will earn a minimum of 250 miles on flights operated by Air Canada, Air Canada Express and Air Canada rouge as well as Star Alliance™ member airlines.
Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement
For non-Canadian residents, the Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement needed to reach Altitude status in 2016 will be 50% lower than the recently published Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement.
These changes are representative of Air Canada’s focus on recognizing our most valued and important members. We remain committed to offering you one of the best frequent flyer programs in the industry.

Air Canada
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:06 pm
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So the 2629 posts were not posted for nothing
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Yul_voyager
So the 2629 posts were not posted for nothing
Yep. With the exception of high revenue SE's (which aren't posting now..?). Weird.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:06 pm
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Originally Posted by calpaugh
These changes are representative of Air Canada’s focus on recognizing our most valued and important members. We remain committed to offering you one of the best frequent flyer programs in the industry.
Air Canada
Is it too early to start predictions on the 2016 program enhancements?

What we've seen in the past week *is* the future. Whether that's 2015/2016 or 2017.

Good luck!
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:07 pm
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Originally Posted by calpaugh
Well well... Interesting. This just out from Air Canada:


Last week, changes to Air Canada Altitude™ for 2015 were announced. As always, we’ve been listening to your feedback and will be adjusting certain elements of the program accordingly.

Threshold eUpgrades
The amount of eUpgrade Credits offered through the Threshold eUpgrade program will increase. As of 100,000 Altitude Qualifying Miles or 100 Altitude Qualifying Segments, 20 eUpgrade Credits will be awarded for every 40,000 AQM or 40 AQS flown.

eUpgrade Validity Date
eUpgrade Credits earned on or after November 7, 2014 will be valid until February 29, 2016.
Additionally, eUpgrade Credits earned on or after November 1, 2015 will be valid until February 28, 2017.
Mile Minimum

For travel from March 1, 2015 onwards, all Altitude members will earn a minimum of 250 miles on flights operated by Air Canada, Air Canada Express and Air Canada rouge as well as Star Alliance™ member airlines.
Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement
For non-Canadian residents, the Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement needed to reach Altitude status in 2016 will be 50% lower than the recently published Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement.
These changes are representative of Air Canada’s focus on recognizing our most valued and important members. We remain committed to offering you one of the best frequent flyer programs in the industry.

Air Canada
Interesting. Well at least they are pretending to listen. In reality they just fixed a mistake of leaving people without any upgrades after 100k which was, shall we say, ill conceived. 20 every 40 isn't quite 12 everry20 and the vastly increased eup requirements seem to still be as announced. A 50 percent cut versus 75 percent. Maybe too little too late. They should have scrapped the whole thing and start over for 2016.

Lots of us have addresses outside Canada so now we have enough upgrades to meet the minimum requirement and just book J on partner airlines. AC has done another brilliant move with this update, reducing my AC mileage from 90 percent to maybe 30 percent.

I think the damage is done.

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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:07 pm
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Too bad I crossed 100k last week. Knew I should have removed my AP number from those united flights.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:08 pm
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Originally Posted by calpaugh
For non-Canadian residents, the Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement needed to reach Altitude status in 2016 will be 50% lower than the recently published Minimum Air Canada Flight Requirement.
That's the part I don't get. So I should just put an US address on my file? (say the company's US branch office?)
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by 3dot14
That's the part I don't get. So I should just put an US address on my file? (say the company's US branch office?)
Do you have a US credit card that you can use?
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:15 pm
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glad to see the min 250 miles and a mini carrot stick to continue past 100K
eup validity beyond year end for late earned ones will help a bit.
I appreciate the incremental moves from the initial announcement.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin
Yep. With the exception of high revenue SE's (which aren't posting now..?). Weird.
Was flying/driving.

I told everyone they'd be back....and no, it wasn't a planned give back.
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:19 pm
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So they tweaked some minor changes, and I see now AC offers 20 upgrade credits for every 40k status miles flown after 100k miles.
Not sure if this is good enough with the increased upgrade credit requirements, but better than nothing I guess?
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Old Oct 31, 2014, 7:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorian
Was flying/driving.

I told everyone they'd be back....and no, it wasn't a planned give back.
Really? You don't think this is Negotiation 101? Anchor them to something horrible, then come back to the middle as compromise to make it seem like there was a victory in there?

We're still gettin' screwed.

l.
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