Tango came after the merger with CP. However the 50% miles for restricted fares antecedes that. Was in place even before they created the SE status.

You got me curious and you are correct
I looked back to old Aeroplan transaction statements from 2007-2008
All of my YYZ-YUL tickets were on Tango (the "carrier" not the fare)

All of the one-way segments earned 125 miles in the "miles credited" column and ZERO in the Status Activity column. However, all of those Tango flights have another line item showing bonus miles under the "promotion" heading. Amounts were either 26 or 55 per segment.

I also found a few 2006-2007 flights on the list and those earned 250 miles per segment, and no "status" miles. Those are listed as Air Canada flghts, not Tango.

remember that upgraded flights earned 125% at one time so that offsets some of the reduced status miles from the "Dark Ages" (guess we are in them again!).

And flying J class where you receive 1.5 AQM means you are a "million miler" after flying only 667k.
Yet a person flying Tango domestic YYZ-YVR has to fly 4Million to be MM.

Either it should be folks who literally flew 1 million miles or if it is based on spend then make it the million spend club.

I like the idea of segments counting towards MM. If AC is about rewarding "loyalty" then those who travel 100 segments a year - often on small CRJ/Dash type planes should re rewarded for sticking it out with AC.
Or perhaps reward it for # of years as SE.

SPG rewards lifetime platinum based on nights/stays and # yrs platinum.

However all fares from K to J fares earn 1 AQS.

AFAIK AC has not yet implemented fractional AQSs increments.

Not quite. When Tango fares were originally introduced they only earned 25% RDMs and no AQMs. AQMs are base and COS bonus.

They are - if you book Tango domestic your AQM are recorded at 25% for MM

Yes but the cost per mile of those miles would be around $2.00/mile based on avg pretax fare of $250/segment for flex. (Usually closer to $300)

That would be close to $250k in spend. Apples to apples it pretty much works - but the tango segment piece does make the comparison more complex.

I am of no opinion either way because it is really up to the airline - I do find it interesting that people seem to feel "better" about how they get there on either side of the equation.

For the record I usually qualify on segments and miles but miles are often very close to the threshold whereas segments are usually well in excess of the required number.

Oops! You are right! I thought I read AQS, and I meant to reply AQS...:rolleyes:

Think about the business side. These programs are set up for the airlines best customers. In business, the best customer is the one who generates the most profit. If someone flys J class and another person flys tango, the tango person is never as important as the J class person. If you disagree to this, you have never owned your own business.

Segments should not count towards MM. If it does, tango segments should be at 50% and a segment should be counted as per fare base. You can be a SE, but that does not make you a FF if you fly 10 return trip between YYZ to YVR making 5 stops each way.

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Indeed.

How could someone who flies 100, 150 or more tango flights be nearly as important as a once a year YVR-YYC lowest business fare flier?

Have you checked the fare difference between Tango and the lowest business class lately, on any route with Y & J service?

Let me give you an example:
YYZ-HKG, Nov. 19, 2014 Wednesday mid-week, One-way:

Tango = $624
Lowest Business = $2,644

The difference is >$2,000 each way or 4.24 times more expensive.

Let's take a look at YYZ-YVR, same date:
Tango = $287
Lowest Business = $1,305~1,983, depending on the departure time and flight

Even if you use the cheapest $1,305, it's >$1,000 more expensive or 4.55 times. For those who have to take a more popular departure time flights, it costs $1,983 or 6.9 times more expensive.

Yes Mr. Hammer. I assume Wpgjest forgotten to add 'dollar for dollar', but good of you to not let him forget that. (read sarcasm, please)

Dollar for Dollar, I'm certain any airline will take a low volume J over a lowest fare road warrior everyday of the week, and twice on Sundays.

Luckily airlines try and cater to both and everything in between.