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canfly15 Nov 4, 2013 7:45 pm

number of million milers
 
The November enroute magazine had some stats on the million mile programme. If I recall correctly it said it took current million milers an average of 22 years to qualify and they account for 4 percent of Altitude members.

jlisi984 Nov 4, 2013 7:47 pm

Yes I saw that too. 22 years?! Wow... that's a long time. If I stay on track (which I probably won't) I should quality by the time I'm 22. :D

RCyyz Nov 4, 2013 8:31 pm

4% sounds like a big number to me.

Are the number of Altitude members the same as the number of Aeroplan members?

Cana2013 Nov 4, 2013 8:35 pm

4% is a lot.

canadiancow Nov 4, 2013 8:47 pm


Originally Posted by RCyyz (Post 21728470)
4% sounds like a big number to me.

Are the number of Altitude members the same as the number of Aeroplan members?

No. You're not an Altitude member unless you have status.

RCyyz Nov 4, 2013 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by canadiancow (Post 21728547)
No. You're not an Altitude member unless you have status.

So if we then assume that there are a mere 10,000 people who have status with AC / AE / Altitude, then 4% = 400 people who are AC Million Milers.

Sounds like a lot to me.

Stranger Nov 4, 2013 9:29 pm


Originally Posted by RCyyz (Post 21728580)
So if we then assume that there are a mere 10,000 people who have status with AC / AE / Altitude, then 4% = 400 people who are AC Million Milers.

Sounds like a lot to me.

Not really.

As to the 22 years, if you consider many people mighht have had an Aeroplan account for a while before they got into serious flying, it's not unreasonable either.

If I look at my own profile, I got an aeroplan account around 1993. Did not fly all that much until 1997 or so when I first made 35k elite. Superelite since probably 2002.

antirealist Nov 4, 2013 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by RCyyz (Post 21728580)
So if we then assume that there are a mere 10,000 people who have status with AC / AE / Altitude, then 4% = 400 people who are AC Million Milers.

Surely there are more than 10,000 people with status in Altitude.

Becoming a million miler has made absolutely no discernible difference to my travel experience on AC. It's never even been mentioned. So I assume there are a lot more than 400 of us.

Argonaut1000 Nov 4, 2013 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by antirealist (Post 21728836)
Surely there are more than 10,000 people with status in Altitude.

Becoming a million miler has made absolutely no discernible difference to my travel experience on AC. It's never even been mentioned. So I assume there are a lot more than 400 of us.

Other than a casual mention that there were 3 of us on the YVR-HKG flight a few weeks ago, there has been no mention of MM.
I too believe there are more that 10,000 with status - Based on the wikipedia mention of 2006 numbers, there were 57,000 Prestige members, 68,000 Elite members, and 9,000 Super Elite members.

So if these numbers are close to today's numbers, does this mean that there are 5,200 of us?

Jasper2009 Nov 4, 2013 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by Argonaut1000 (Post 21728863)
Other than a casual mention that there were 3 of us on the YVR-HKG flight a few weeks ago, there has been no mention of MM.
I too believe there are more that 10,000 with status - Based on the wikipedia mention of 2006 numbers, there were 57,000 Prestige members, 68,000 Elite members, and 9,000 Super Elite members.

So if these numbers are close to today's numbers, does this mean that there are 5,200 of us?

4000-5000 MMers wouldnīt seem that impossible to me. There are quite a few business travellers out there who have had SE status for over 10 years and do most of their flying on AC metal. Throw in those fliers who used to have this flying pattern 10 years ago and those who donīt fly 100k/year, but 200k-350k per year and the number grows even more.

There are several dozen MMers on FT alone. It doesnīt seem unreasonable to me that the FT population represents no more than 1% of all status members, so a few thousand MMers would sound about right IMO.

HerpaYvr Nov 4, 2013 10:40 pm

This past summer when I was at the YYC MLL, I learned that there was just over 1,000 MM. Two of the dragons and I were discussing that YYC has more SE than any other station (think of that when you buy gas) and how they cant seem to get ant firm answer on how many status passengers really exist ?

Jasper2009 Nov 4, 2013 10:45 pm


Originally Posted by HerpaYvr (Post 21728950)
This past summer when I was at the YYC MLL, I learned that there was just over 1,000 MM. Two of the dragons and I were discussing that YYC has more SE than any other station (think of that when you buy gas) and how they cant seem to get ant firm answer on how many status passengers really exist ?

I guess AC likes to keep such information secret. Or maybe keeping it a secret is a good way to keep customers and employees entertained.:p

More SEs in YYC than in YYZ? That would surprise me, though I guess itīs not impossible. Pax in YVR and YYZ have more options, so may choose to have status on another airline. Not to mention the economy in YYC is doing quite well.

krayZpaving Nov 5, 2013 7:41 am

I know at least 20 AC MMers in my company alone, so 400 seems way too low.

krayZpaving Nov 5, 2013 7:42 am


Originally Posted by Jasper2009 (Post 21728973)
More SEs in YYC than in YYZ? That would surprise me, though I guess itīs not impossible. Pax in YVR and YYZ have more options, so may choose to have status on another airline. Not to mention the economy in YYC is doing quite well.

Also, you have to fly further to get anywhere! From YYZ you can hit YUL, NYC, ORD, WAS, BOS, etc, all within 500 miles.

anotheran2 Nov 5, 2013 2:00 pm

I see at least 2 MMs on every flight i fly between YYC/YVR to YYZ. so i think 400 is too low.


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