Less Threshold eUpgrades in 2013
 

Has anyone noticed that threshold rewards of eupgrades is going to drop in 2013?

Now: https://www.aircanada.com/en/aeropla...eupgrades.html

2013: http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...threshold.html

Highlights:
* Elites get 50% less eupgrades at 60K threshold
* SEs get about 20% less eupgrades
* 300K and 400K mile threshold is now 40 eupgrades rather than 30

I hope AC lowers the eupgrade requirements for 2013 too but I highly doubt it.

I don't like the drastic lowering of eupgrades. But I guess if you choose eupgrades for all your benefits in SE, you start off with 5 more than 2012.

Does this affect you?

SE's only get 12 credits and on top of that only 2 ore than Elite50/75K?

And then Threshold Gifts are given to Elite50/75K before SE's?

Unless the amount of credits is coming down from 14/17 for O/S credits one way this will be another kick in the balls.

And if they dont just means another Z/P fare on another operator because of the AC games.


They must be dropping the required credits requirements.

Surely you jest?

Actually, they have dropped the requirements for certain flights by adding an under-500 mile category but they've dramatically increased them for ultra long haul flights. The details are here.

I cannot imagine that happening.

Also, note that the number of credits you get initially has gone up a bit, so the decrease is not huge.

Still, my guess is, they want to cut down on upgrades on Tango Plus. Probably too many credits chasing to few seats, hence some unhappiness in the lower ranks. They want you to spend more, on more expensive fares.

Or in other words, the threshold for bottom feeders has just been moved up. :D

@Tax Dude Thanks for the link to the new eupgrade table. I should've added that. Though the new table doesn't benefit since i usually book non-M Tango Plus and flights less than 500 miles have usually been on non-AC metal or a DASH-8.

Interesting how they've added a new 11001 mi + level.

@Stranger i only noticed a 5 eupgrade increase at initial. How are you calculating it as not huge?

Hasn't this all been discussed before? I already knew all this.

Sure the numbers are high, but getting upgrades from these lower fare classes on these ultra long haul flights is largely a futile exercise anyway don't ya think?

32 credits?

That would affect alot of traffic on the East coast Canada to Australia.

Crack heads.

As we have seen for the last years another blow to the Super Elite benefits. Now with a 20% decrease in the e-credits.

Nope. Even YYT-SYD is less than 11,000 miles when measure "direct", which is how they do it.

So is there any AC route that is affected?

Only people traveling from Asia to South America on AC perhaps?

Anyway, what would be the rationale/motivation for them to introduce this category?

Except you can't get from YYT to SYD on an 'international' flight:)

I assume if you did want to go from St John's to Sydney, you would need the requisite credits for the 3131 domestic miles YYT to YVR (4 or 10 for T+), plus the 12 or 17 credits required for the YVR-SYD leg?

Air Canada determines # of eupgrade credits required by looking at the distance between YYT to SYD, which is under 11,000 miles - not by individual segment lengths.

Less Threshold eUpgrades in 2013
 

It's to stop LHR/SYD folks :(

Makes sense. How vindictive of them to introduce this to get even with half a dozen nutcases who would fly LHR-SYD on AC though Canada...

Seems the culture never changes. Still way too many too expensive middle managers trying to find excuses to justify their existence?

Not really because LHR - SYD is 10575 miles.

That's right, it affects: SCL/EZE/GRU - HKG/ICN/PVG/PEK, GRU/EZE - NRT, LIM-HKG. I don't understand why they did it though. As there is strong competition now from South America to Asia from the middle eastern carriers.

Try again.

What do you mean by that rather criptic question?

getaround is correct in terms of the distance from LHR-SYD.

Here's something I haven't seen discussed, although I haven't been following all the threads lately. According to this chart folks who start the year as P or E35 won't get any threshold credits at 40k.

It's also going to be interesting to see how they deal with instant status recognition and the Select Privileges at the various levels. Someone starting the year as a P could amass quite a store of upgrade credits if they reach SE during the year, passing through E35, E50, E75.

<<Very slowly raises hand when thinks no-one is watching>>

Doing it next month, but not on eUpgrade. Trust me, there is a good reason :)

+1 doing it in January-have been for over 10 years actually.

So I wonder who is right will SYD-LHR (via YVR/YYZ) be + or - 11,000??

SYD/YYZ

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=SYD-Yvr-yyz-lhr

13,398

That's geographically correct, but not the way AC calculates the miles.

http://www.gcmap.com/dist?P=SYD-lhr

10573

Well, all of you are wrong, but tinchote is the most correct.

In all of this thread, I'm surprised that nobody thought to look up the details on the AC website.

https://services.aircanada.com/eupgw...vice/eupgrade/

by selecting on the link "How many eUpgrade Credits are required to upgrade?" and entering LHR and SYD people can easily find out directly from the AC website that the eUpgrade mileage is 10,538 miles. This is regardless of actual routing/connections taken.

Lol, I'll accept that :)

I would assume the early recognition will only apply to E50 and SE