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Calculating Award Flight Fuel Surcharges
Hi all,
I'm currently looking to book to flights, either Economy or Business for this upcoming December. My issue is, I currently have the points in Amex MR and don't want to transfer them to Aeroplan until I can figure out what the surcharges are. I was wondering if anyone could give me some suggestions on figuring out the surcharges. I tried calling up Aeroplan...but they weren't much help, to say the least. I guess what I'm asking is, does anyone have 125K points sitting around in their aeroplan account that could check and see how much the surcharges would cost? As that's the only way I currently know how to find out what the charges are. I could PM or post the itineraries I'm interested in if anyone can help. Thanks! |
What is the route?
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Option 1:
FLIGHT 1 RALEIGH / DURHAM (RDU) to NEW YORK NEWARK (EWR) Dep. 12:32 Arr. 14:21 stop(s) 0 Mon. Dec 17, 2012 same day Duration: 1h 49 minAircraft: DH4 Meal: Complimentary meal UA4907Operated by COLGAN AIR DBA UNITED EXPRESS Economy Change plane in New York Newark Time To Connect: 2h 29 min. NEW YORK NEWARK (EWR) to FRANKFURT (FRA) Dep. 16:50 Arr. 06:55 stop(s) 0 Mon. Dec 17, 2012 Tue. Dec 18, 2012 Duration: 8h 05 minAircraft: 752 Meal: Complimentary meal UA118 Economy Change plane in Frankfurt Time To Connect: 7h 15 min. FRANKFURT (FRA) to BANGKOK (BKK) Dep. 14:10 Arr. 06:20 stop(s) 0 Tue. Dec 18, 2012 Wed. Dec 19, 2012 Duration: 10h 10 minAircraft: 744 Meal: Complimentary meal TG921 Economy Change plane in Bangkok Time To Connect: 1h 30 min. BANGKOK (BKK) to HANOI (HAN) Dep. 07:50 Arr. 09:35 stop(s) 0 Wed. Dec 19, 2012 same day Duration: 1h 45 minAircraft: 772 Meal: Complimentary meal TG560 Economy Total travel time: 33h 03min FLIGHT 2 HANOI (HAN) to BANGKOK (BKK) Dep. 20:25 Arr. 22:15 stop(s) 0 Wed. Jan 2, 2013 same day Duration: 1h 50 minAircraft: 333 Meal: Complimentary meal TG565 Economy Change plane in Bangkok Time To Connect: 2h 05 min. BANGKOK (BKK) to ZURICH (ZRH) Dep. 00:20 Arr. 06:50 stop(s) 0 Thu. Jan 3, 2013 same day Duration: 12h 30 minAircraft: 346 Meal: Complimentary meal TG970 Economy Change plane in Zurich Time To Connect: 2h 55 min. ZURICH (ZRH) to ATHENS (ATH) Dep. 09:45 Arr. 13:20 stop(s) 0 Thu. Jan 3, 2013 same day Duration: 2h 35 minAircraft: 321 Meal: Complimentary meal LX1830 Economy Total travel time: 21h 55min FLIGHT 3 ATHENS (ATH) to ISTANBUL (IST) Dep. 07:45 Arr. 09:00 stop(s) 0 Sun. Jan 6, 2013 same day Duration: 1h 15 minAircraft: 320 Meal: Complimentary meal TK1848 Economy Change plane in Istanbul Time To Connect: 4h 55 min. ISTANBUL (IST) to NEW YORK NEWARK (EWR) Dep. 13:55 Arr. 18:26 stop(s) 0 Sun. Jan 6, 2013 same day Duration: 11h 31 minAircraft: 763 Meal: Complimentary meal UA905 Economy Change plane in New York Newark Time To Connect: 2h 29 min. NEW YORK NEWARK (EWR) to RALEIGH / DURHAM (RDU) Dep. 20:55 Arr. 22:49 stop(s) 0 Sun. Jan 6, 2013 same day Duration: 1h 54 minAircraft: 738 Meal: Complimentary meal UA1570 Economy Total travel time: 22h 04min FLIGHT 1 RALEIGH / DURHAM (RDU) to CHICAGO O HARE (ORD) Dep. 10:00 Arr. 11:11 stop(s) 0 Mon. Dec 17, 2012 same day Duration: 2h 11 minAircraft: E70 Meal: Complimentary meal UA3466Operated by SHUTTLE AMERICA DBA UNITED EXPRESS Economy Change plane in Chicago O Hare Time To Connect: 1h 09 min. CHICAGO O HARE (ORD) to BANGKOK (BKK) Dep. 12:20 Arr. 23:40 stop(s) 1 Mon. Dec 17, 2012 Tue. Dec 18, 2012 Duration: 22h 20 minAircraft: 744 Meal: Complimentary meal UA881 Business Change plane in Bangkok Time To Connect: 8h 10 min. BANGKOK (BKK) to HANOI (HAN) Dep. 07:50 Arr. 09:35 stop(s) 0 Wed. Dec 19, 2012 same day Duration: 1h 45 minAircraft: 772 Meal: Complimentary meal TG560 Business Total travel time: 35h 35min FLIGHT 2 HANOI (HAN) to BANGKOK (BKK) Dep. 20:25 Arr. 22:15 stop(s) 0 Wed. Jan 2, 2013 same day Duration: 1h 50 minAircraft: 333 Meal: Complimentary meal TG565 Business Change plane in Bangkok Time To Connect: 2h 20 min. BANGKOK (BKK) to MILAN MALPENSA (MXP) Dep. 00:35 Arr. 07:10 stop(s) 0 Thu. Jan 3, 2013 same day Duration: 12h 35 minAircraft: 346 Meal: Complimentary meal TG940 Business Change plane in Milan Malpensa Time To Connect: 2h 45 min. MILAN MALPENSA (MXP) to ZURICH (ZRH) Dep. 09:55 Arr. 10:55 stop(s) 0 Thu. Jan 3, 2013 same day Duration: 1h 00 minAircraft: AR1 Meal: Complimentary meal LX1613Operated by SWISS EUROPEAN AIR LINES Business Change plane in Zurich Time To Connect: 2h 00 min. ZURICH (ZRH) to ATHENS (ATH) Dep. 12:55 Arr. 16:35 stop(s) 0 Thu. Jan 3, 2013 same day Duration: 2h 40 minAircraft: 320 Meal: Complimentary meal LX1838 Business Total travel time: 25h 10min FLIGHT 3 ATHENS (ATH) to MUNICH (MUC) Dep. 06:35 Arr. 08:15 stop(s) 0 Sun. Jan 6, 2013 same day Duration: 2h 40 minAircraft: 320 Meal: Complimentary meal LH1755 Business Change plane in Munich Time To Connect: 3h 25 min. MUNICH (MUC) to WASHINGTON DULLES (IAD) Dep. 11:40 Arr. 15:06 stop(s) 0 Sun. Jan 6, 2013 same day Duration: 9h 26 minAircraft: 777 Meal: Complimentary meal UA903 Business Change plane in Washington Dulles Time To Connect: 6h 44 min. WASHINGTON DULLES (IAD) to RALEIGH / DURHAM (RDU) Dep. 21:50 Arr. 22:55 stop(s) 0 Sun. Jan 6, 2013 same day Duration: 1h 05 minAircraft: 319 Meal: Complimentary meal UA933 Economy Total travel time: 23h 20min |
Just realized that was pretty complicated, here's an easier breakdown for anyone that can help:
Option 1(Economy): RDU-HAN: UA4907 UA118 TG921 TG560 HAN-ATH: TG565 TG970 LX1830 ATH-RDU: TK1848 UA905 UA1570 RDU-HAN: UA3466 UA881 TG560 HAN-ATH: TG565 TG940 LX1613 LX1838 ATH-RDU: LH1755 UA903 UA933 |
This should go to AC forum.
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An easy way to get an estimate is to put the itinerary into ITA, and see what the taxes/YQ is there (making sure to remove the fares and YQ for airlines that don't charge). It's a rough estimate, but comes out pretty close to what they actually charge you. Your itinerary is fairly YQ-friendly as the only airline that you're flying that aeroplan charges YQ for is TG (and a short LH leg). UA, LX, TK all don't have YQ (for now).
Based on ITA, your first itinerary would be ~$680, and your second would be ~$520. |
Originally Posted by dinosims
(Post 18370385)
An easy way to get an estimate is to put the itinerary into ITA, and see what the taxes/YQ is there (making sure to remove the fares and YQ for airlines that don't charge). It's a rough estimate, but comes out pretty close to what they actually charge you. Your itinerary is fairly YQ-friendly as the only airline that you're flying that aeroplan charges YQ for is TG (and a short LH leg). UA, LX, TK all don't have YQ (for now).
Based on ITA, your first itinerary would be ~$680, and your second would be ~$520. |
Originally Posted by idonotmatch
(Post 18372598)
Thanks, dinosims. I'm trying that method on ITA, but can't get those particular flights to show up. I'm going through the multi-destination tab, and plugging in RDU-HAN, HAN-ATH, ATH-RDU and can't find those flights. Am I missing something?
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I just checked for you, using the Aeroplan site.
Option 1: $641.10 Option 2: $516.10 Hope that helps! |
Originally Posted by highfly3r
(Post 18374726)
I just checked for you, using the Aeroplan site.
Option 1: $641.10 Option 2: $516.10 Hope that helps! |
Originally Posted by idonotmatch
(Post 18374749)
HUGE thank you!^^^
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Can MR miles/points be moved into US or UA/CO accounts? You could save about 80% of those charges booking in either of those programs rather than AE.
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
(Post 18375007)
Can MR miles/points be moved into US or UA/CO accounts? You could save about 80% of those charges booking in either of those programs rather than AE.
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
(Post 18375007)
Can MR miles/points be moved into US or UA/CO accounts? You could save about 80% of those charges booking in either of those programs rather than AE.
Use ITA to map out your route for fuel surcharge checking. Usually its right on, but Aeroplan can be more if they charge shorthaul AC YQ on your tickets. |
Originally Posted by idonotmatch
(Post 18372598)
Thanks, dinosims. I'm trying that method on ITA, but can't get those particular flights to show up. I'm going through the multi-destination tab, and plugging in RDU-HAN, HAN-ATH, ATH-RDU and can't find those flights. Am I missing something?
Good to see ITA wasn't too far off - thanks highfly3r. |
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