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Well I guess that solidifies it for me. I was pondering on whether to fly AC or Continental/Unites next year for a friends wedding. Continental was already cheaper than AC out of EWR... Was willing to pay the fare difference for the convenience of flying out of YYZ but the 50% hit just kills it for me.
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Originally Posted by Gquie
(Post 17165951)
Well I guess that solidifies it for me. I was pondering on whether to fly AC or Continental/Unites next year for a friends wedding. Continental was already cheaper than AC out of EWR... Was willing to pay the fare difference for the convenience of flying out of YYZ but the 50% hit just kills it for me.
At this point, not so many overseas destination with Tango fare, are there? |
Originally Posted by becreative
(Post 17165941)
How does this only target infrequent travelers? As a frequent traveler I used to book the lowest fares for international itins. Those used to get me 100% status miles regardless of the fare class booked. I could also use my upgrade credits for upgrades. Now with the (re)introduction of Tango on international routes the lowest fares will not give me the same status miles or upgrade opps. The infrequent traveler doesn't have upgrade credits so that point is moot and probably doesnt place the same value on status miles so again that point is moot. So I would argue that these changes actually target frequent travelers where their travel policies require them to book the lowest available fares.
It will all depend on how aggressive they are in terms of re-labelling what are currently Tango Plus fares as Tango internationally, but I am sensing that what they meant at SMD3 was that the visible parts of the program would not change much - it's the less visible stuff (think IKK). This frog is starting to get toasty in the pot of water. |
i see them...............
but this whole thing separates the boys from the men........... now i can see them potentially raising the Elite qualifying criteria to 50,000 |
Originally Posted by Stranger
(Post 17166031)
At this point, not so many overseas destination with Tango fare, are there?
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Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller
(Post 17166181)
i see them...............
but this whole thing separates the boys from the men........... now i can see them potentially raising the Elite qualifying criteria to 50,000 US based airlines typically require 50k status miles to earn *G status, but pretty much all of their revenue fare classes earn 100% mileage, even the dirt cheap fares. AC only requires 35k miles to qualify for *G, but many of the revenue fare categories earn 0 status miles. Someone could fly 100,000BIS miles domestically on Tango fares and have no status to show for it. Reducing the status miles earned on international flights will make it harder for many people to hit 35k miles, so why raise the requirement to 50k? |
Originally Posted by Stranger
(Post 17166031)
At this point, not so many overseas destination with Tango fare, are there?
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Tango went from 100% to 0% to 25% non-status, the last change was about 4 years ago.
Is the new 50% earning for international status or non-status? And I've never seen a Tango international fare. From LHR all the fares are T+ or higher. The only time you can end up on a Tango fare is if you get a connecting domestic flight in which case the connection is 25% non-status. Is that what you mean by T intenational? Or else where are there Tango international fares? |
Tango fares are already making an appearance on AC direct international flights from YVR and YYZ to asian destinations (HKG, PEK, PVG). It's likely only a matter of time before these appear on all international routes....
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Originally Posted by zkzkz
(Post 17166381)
Tango went from 100% to 0% to 25% non-status, the last change was about 4 years ago.
Is the new 50% earning for international status or non-status? And I've never seen a Tango international fare. From LHR all the fares are T+ or higher. The only time you can end up on a Tango fare is if you get a connecting domestic flight in which case the connection is 25% non-status. Is that what you mean by T intenational? Or else where are there Tango international fares? |
Originally Posted by YEG USER
(Post 17166215)
Wouldn't reducing the status miles earned on flights be an argument against raising the qualifying criteria to 50k?
US based airlines typically require 50k status miles to earn *G status, but pretty much all of their revenue fare classes earn 100% mileage, even the dirt cheap fares. AC only requires 35k miles to qualify for *G, but many of the revenue fare categories earn 0 status miles. Someone could fly 100,000BIS miles domestically on Tango fares and have no status to show for it. Reducing the status miles earned on international flights will make it harder for many people to hit 35k miles, so why raise the requirement to 50k? dont take my word seriously................... Serious note........... I do see Tango international fares from time to time.........I guess when they are dirt cheap to compete with another carrier |
Originally Posted by global_happy_traveller
(Post 17166656)
evil joke..... *grin grin* *mr. burns*
dont take my word seriously................... Serious note........... I do see Tango international fares from time to time.........I guess when they are dirt cheap to compete with another carrier |
Originally Posted by YEG USER
(Post 17166215)
Wouldn't reducing the status miles earned on flights be an argument against raising the qualifying criteria to 50k?
US based airlines typically require 50k status miles to earn *G status, but pretty much all of their revenue fare classes earn 100% mileage, even the dirt cheap fares. AC only requires 35k miles to qualify for *G, but many of the revenue fare categories earn 0 status miles. Someone could fly 100,000BIS miles domestically on Tango fares and have no status to show for it. Reducing the status miles earned on international flights will make it harder for many people to hit 35k miles, so why raise the requirement to 50k? |
Originally Posted by Stranger
(Post 17166962)
I have actually seen "Tango J."
folks, you know the 50,000 miles Elite re-qualifying criteria is only a joke Gonna be interesting to see how some employees justify to their employer paying an additional $100-200 for Tango Plus fares.....some of the companies i know have policies regarding the reservation of the lowest fare |
Originally Posted by Stranger
(Post 17166031)
You don't say where you are flying to.
At this point, not so many overseas destination with Tango fare, are there? |
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