"Air Canada Express": New Regional Brand
It's bye bye to the Jazz brand, according to the article below. The article states "The rebranding is part of a broader move at the airline to give consumers a clear expectation of the different services they will be receiving, both in terms of crew and plane size." I don't see it being different than today, but aligns the regional partners more with the mainline brand.
Air Canada is set to rebrand its entire regional fleet under a new moniker, “Air Canada express,” putting an end to its Jazz brand and opening the door to additional regional partnerships. The move comes just days before Air Canada is set to launch its new service from Toronto Island on Sunday using a small fleet of Bombardier Q400s operated by Sky Regional Airlines Inc. |
What a waste of marketing money. The AC Jazz brand works just fine.
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Sucks. Jazz is a somewhat unique name. Spending money to become boring? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
Also, why do so many carriers go with "express" as their regional partner branding? Doesn't that imply that their mainline is slower? |
Express
I suppose "Express" sounds better than "Little cramped plane"
The move would bring their service inline with UA/UAX and CO/COX |
I think the fact that Jazz wasn't going to operate the Island service was probably going to cause some confusion for people who would be expecting AC service and not Jazz service when they showed up for the flight.
Basically, I think they were just going to create confusion by having all these little airlines providing regional services, but people know Jazz as the regional carrier and don't think there are others. Of course, since Jazz is now Chorus, they could have just rebranded the entire regional network as Jazz instead of Express and been probably 80% complete already LOL. |
Originally Posted by DanJ
(Post 16287126)
I think the fact that Jazz wasn't going to operate the Island service was probably going to cause some confusion for people who would be expecting AC service and not Jazz service when they showed up for the flight.
Basically, I think they were just going to create confusion by having all these little airlines providing regional services, but people know Jazz as the regional carrier and don't think there are others. Of course, since Jazz is now Chorus, they could have just rebranded the entire regional network as Jazz instead of Express and been probably 80% complete already LOL. |
Originally Posted by DanJ
(Post 16287126)
Of course, since Jazz is now Chorus, they could have just rebranded the entire regional network as Jazz instead of Express and been probably 80% complete already LOL.
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Express......What a bland name ! :eek:
It is not original as other USA airlines use the term express. |
'Air Canada Regional' or 'Air Canada Connector' would have been better.
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Originally Posted by GlennH
(Post 16288210)
'Air Canada Regional' or 'Air Canada Connector' would have been better.
They should have left evas and cma and jazz the way they are, they work good in their respective markets. The new sky regional service should have have just been named " we are trying our damndest do drive porter into the ground service". If porter folds they will abandone sky regional anyways so why bother with all the hoo ha! |
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Everyone seems to think that Jazz is part of mainline anyway.. This will really help with that :) the service level differences between them get annoying at times (even the silly things like credit card machines for a while, or coke zero) |
Originally Posted by klparrot
(Post 16287096)
Also, why do so many carriers go with "express" as their regional partner branding? Doesn't that imply that their mainline is slower?
You show up for a flight on any carrier's "Express" service and you're happy if it turns out to be a CRJ (and not some prop thingy) and you actually get a cup of lukewarm pop. It's all about managing expectations! |
Express works fine.. I've never booked Jazz on AE awards.. I don't think it was possible but not sure. I've taken flights on United Express, and one connection in Denver was a joke.. they had to make two switches.. I booked this connection one year from Hawaii through AE *A rewards.
So I'm not sure if its a good thing if AC Express would be part of AC mainline connections. I think the union has a problem about it already. |
I booked a bunch of those new flights to YTZ last weekend when it came to about @218 all in, in T with the promo code.
My expectations? I expect to get exactly what is being advertised: New planes with 33-34" legroom, on-time performance and what they call 'premium' service on the ground (YTZ) and in the air. But I am not holding my breath. I do not really care what they call it. In my understanding, it is something like a (business) shuttle, no-frills airline (who needs J class on a such a short flight?). Competition is good, and I hope that both this upstart and Porter survive and continue doing well. |
Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
(Post 16288898)
Express works fine.. I've never booked Jazz on AE awards.. I don't think it was possible but not sure.
You can. I've booked YOW -> YYR with segments on Jazz and EVAS. Also booked YOW->YUL* a few times, which is almost always Jazz. * Don't judge me, I can't drive and I hate the train :P |
Originally Posted by hearna
(Post 16288411)
Ewww no!
They should have left evas and cma and jazz the way they are, they work good in their respective markets. The new sky regional service should have have just been named " we are trying our damndest do drive porter into the ground service". If porter folds they will abandone sky regional anyways so why bother with all the hoo ha! If it had / has to be renamed something then IMHO either of those options sounds better than 'Express' I would rather they leave it alone as well.... |
Originally Posted by GlennH
(Post 16290804)
They could have left it well alone....the point is they didn't.
If it had / has to be renamed something then IMHO either of those options sounds better than 'Express' I would rather they leave it alone as well.... |
Originally Posted by km101
(Post 16287120)
I suppose "Express" sounds better than "Little cramped plane"
The move would bring their service inline with UA/UAX and CO/COX |
AC marketing must of been on holidays when they created that name...
Who is flying these planes Air canada or Jazz pilots....More 2 tier hiring on its way |
Originally Posted by ACYYZ/SD
(Post 16290930)
"Link, Regional, Connect, Connector, Connection, Express" - they all pretty much denote the same thing.
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Boring, but what more (or less) would anyone expect from AC's marketing department.
Will the Jazz livery disappear too? That would be a shame, it was a nice riff on the more staid mainline scheme. And if so, who pays for that, Chorus or AC? Frankly, if I were Chorus I'd be trying to diversify as fast as I could away from AC's falling star. It won't be long before you'll be getting Colgan style "quality" if AC tries to farm out more regional flying. |
Originally Posted by Toule911
(Post 16292471)
Regional is the only bilingual... I'm not even sure if we can say "express" in french lol
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I always hated the look of the Jazz planes... Looking forward to the new look!
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I'm still surprised, after all these years, that in many organizations the solution to every problem is a name change.
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Originally Posted by KenHamer
(Post 16292507)
I'm still surprised, after all these years, that in many organizations the solution to every problem is a name change.
Now they're calling it AC Express? Considering I have a few hundred shares of Chorus (AC Jazz) I might sell and see what this re-organization affects. And why is Jazz not doing the island flights? |
Originally Posted by Toule911
(Post 16292471)
Regional is the only bilingual... I'm not even sure if we can say "express" in french lol
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Originally Posted by djjaguar64
(Post 16290978)
Express means take you there quickly and dump you, no food no drinnks, cheap cheap, cheap.:)
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Originally Posted by phedre
(Post 16289552)
You can. I've booked YOW -> YYR with segments on Jazz and EVAS. Also booked YOW->YUL* a few times, which is almost always Jazz.
* Don't judge me, I can't drive and I hate the train :P |
Originally Posted by flymate
(Post 16291589)
Who is flying these planes Air canada or Jazz pilots....More 2 tier hiring on its way
I personally like the livery. It's consistent with the mainline brand. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/...169bc8e46f.jpg It looks like the Jazz equipment will get the new livery too. "But the Air Canada Express brand will gradually be applied to the fleet of Jazz planes operated by Chorus Aviation (TSX:CHR.B), a former Air Canada subsidiary that was spun off several years ago and recently renamed. Air Canada (TSX:AC.B) said Jazz's 120 planes will get new colours as they come in for maintenance, as will the 15 new Bombardier Q400's on order." http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/201...xpress-110427/ |
Originally Posted by g46r
(Post 16287086)
What a waste of marketing money. The AC Jazz brand works just fine.
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Originally Posted by miles85
(Post 16292539)
I'm trying to figure this all out. AC has had Jazz for years, which actually was just changed to Chorus Aviation (Jan 1st due to it previously being an income trust).
Now they're calling it AC Express? Considering I have a few hundred shares of Chorus (AC Jazz) I might sell and see what this re-organization affects. And why is Jazz not doing the island flights? |
Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead
(Post 16292493)
I always hated the look of the Jazz planes... Looking forward to the new look!
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Originally Posted by Stussi613
(Post 16293232)
Sky Regional Airlines. This is nothing new, AC uses several carriers for regional services.
I personally like the livery. It's consistent with the mainline brand. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5263/...169bc8e46f.jpg It looks like the Jazz equipment will get the new livery too. "But the Air Canada Express brand will gradually be applied to the fleet of Jazz planes operated by Chorus Aviation (TSX:CHR.B), a former Air Canada subsidiary that was spun off several years ago and recently renamed. Air Canada (TSX:AC.B) said Jazz's 120 planes will get new colours as they come in for maintenance, as will the 15 new Bombardier Q400's on order." http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/201...xpress-110427/ It looks great and like something that goes very well with the image of the main like. Jazz does not. |
Bye bye www.flyjazz.ca
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Originally Posted by Vaclav
(Post 16294312)
Same here, even though I would hesitate to use the word 'hate'.
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Originally Posted by Vaclav
(Post 16294317)
It looks great and like something that goes very well with the image of the main like. Jazz does not.
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Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead
(Post 16294333)
OK - how about intensely disliked ;)
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Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 16293436)
For a while they painted some planes with a Tango logo. Whatever that was good for. It died and became a "fare code". Same will probably happen with AC Express. Or maybe this is another fancy way of denying status miles to loyal fliers.
I prefer the new paint scheme, the green and yellow Jazz versions were ugly (IMHO) and wore quickly and badly. I can't really tell the difference between the red and orange anyway. |
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Originally Posted by DanJ
(Post 16293458)
I'm not sure if AC put out for bids the Island flights, or just shopped around, already basically knowing what Jazz would charge, based on the current agreement. AC wanted cheaper costs to be able to compete with Porter, and Jazz was too expensive. Or - AC was pissed at Jazz for partnering up with Thomas Cook and wasn't going to give Jazz the Island in any event (which is what some on an aviation board speculate is the real reason).
"Selection of Sky Regional Airlines was based on a number of criteria including a competitive cost structure, a proven track record in customer service excellence and experience maintaining Dash 8 Q400 aircraft." |
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