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killer9012 Jan 5, 2011 9:56 am

Here comes the claw
 
I Earned Prestige and selected benefites late 2010 but never got them untill january 3rd, when I also earned Elite and selected benefites. And here comes the claw...

Jan 3 2011 Mileage Deduction 1,500 MILES

Jan 3 2011 ELITE BONUS 1,000 STATUS MILES - AIR CANADA PROMOTION 1,000

Jan 3 2011 ELITE BONUS 2,000 STATUS MILES - AIR CANADA PROMOTION 2,000

Jan 1 2011 PRESTIGE BONUS 1,500 SMILES - AIR CANADA PROMOTION 1,500

PreferBulkhead Jan 5, 2011 10:04 am

... and this surprises you why? As RSWilson indicates in the next post - this is what is supposed to happen. Move on...

RSWillson Jan 5, 2011 10:05 am


Originally Posted by killer9012 (Post 15588303)
I Earned Prestige and selected benefites late 2010 but never got them untill january 3rd, when I also earned Elite and selected benefites. And here comes the claw...

You say this like it was an unexpected travesty.

This topic has been discussed ad naseum in the past. Get over it...you can't have both Prestige and Elite benefits combined. Enjoy your Elite status and direct your venom at useful things.

jlisi984 Jan 5, 2011 10:57 am


Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead (Post 15588358)
... and this surprises you why? As RSWilson indicates in the next post - this is what is supposed to happen. Move on...

Are you prophetic????

ylwae Jan 5, 2011 11:00 am


Originally Posted by jlisi984 (Post 15588740)
Are you prophetic????

Note that the AP website never stopped working for him either. Something's going on here.

Merlin666 Jan 5, 2011 11:43 am

The issue is more what will happen with e-certs. When I made Prestige one year I ended up with a whole bunch of SWUs, then I went to Elite in the same year and got additional SSWUS and NAUs - the previous SWUs were not invalidated. Now with e-certs if someone changes status from P to E during the year they may (or may not?) adjust the e-certs to reflect the new status, instead of having the previous additive rule.

zorn Jan 5, 2011 11:48 am


Originally Posted by Merlin666 (Post 15589127)
The issue is more what will happen with e-certs. When I made Prestige one year I ended up with a whole bunch of SWUs, then I went to Elite in the same year and got additional SSWUS and NAUs - the previous SWUs were not invalidated. Now with e-certs if someone changes status from P to E during the year they may (or may not?) adjust the e-certs to reflect the new status, instead of having the previous additive rule.

AY answered this question.

People moving up in status during the year will not lose previously earned e-credits.

NAJetSet Jan 5, 2011 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by zorn (Post 15589180)
AY answered this question.

People moving up in status during the year will not lose previously earned e-credits.

thanks! finally someone else knows what they are talking about.
I've been all over this one in tons of other threads. I have my Elite allotment of eCredits for 2011 and my SE allotment of eCredits for 2011.

PreferBulkhead Jan 5, 2011 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by ylwae (Post 15588771)
Note that the AP website never stopped working for him either. Something's going on here.

Shhhh - be vewy vewy quiet ;)

zkzkz Jan 5, 2011 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by NAJetSet (Post 15589748)
thanks! finally someone else knows what they are talking about.
I've been all over this one in tons of other threads. I have my Elite allotment of eCredits for 2011 and my SE allotment of eCredits for 2011.

I'm curious how you got this. I'm assuming you didn't make early SE for 2011 (my condolences if you have!). Does that mean you made your Elite choices prior to Dec 31 and then crossed the 100k threshold afterwards in 2010?


What I'm wondering about is if you get early Elite or SE what are the expiry times of those ecerts. Do they last a year from when you get them or do they expire Feb 28/29?

zorn Jan 5, 2011 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by NAJetSet (Post 15589748)
thanks! finally someone else knows what they are talking about.
I've been all over this one in tons of other threads. I have my Elite allotment of eCredits for 2011 and my SE allotment of eCredits for 2011.

That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about people who actually move up in status P->E, E->SE, during 2011 via the usual "Early Status" recognition system.

These people will not have their old eCredits removed (just like they never had their old certs taken away).

acysb87 Jan 5, 2011 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by zorn (Post 15590257)
That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about people who actually move up in status P->E, E->SE, during 2011 via the usual "Early Status" recognition system.

These people will not have their old eCredits removed (just like they never had their old certs taken away).

Does this now mean you do not know what you are talking about?:p;):D

NAJetSet Jan 5, 2011 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by zkzkz (Post 15590190)
I'm curious how you got this. I'm assuming you didn't make early SE for 2011 (my condolences if you have!). Does that mean you made your Elite choices prior to Dec 31 and then crossed the 100k threshold afterwards in 2010?


What I'm wondering about is if you get early Elite or SE what are the expiry times of those ecerts. Do they last a year from when you get them or do they expire Feb 28/29?

i qualified for elite very early in 2010, at the six month mark i start having my AE nubmer removed at the gate just prior to boarding (after u/g if any). then when december comes along, the system sees that i qualify for Elite for 2011 and asks me kindly to select my E benefits for 2011. when that goes through, i submit a whole heck load of milage requests for the all those flights not credited, and that puts me way over the SE threshold, then the system sees that I now qualify for SE in 2011 and asks to select again. so for my E benefits i selected all eCredits and for SE i select %100 and all eCredits for a total of 95 eCredits for 2011 (excluding my FP eCredits and threshold bonus', which will take me somewhere to 257 eCredits for 2011)

NAJetSet Jan 5, 2011 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by zorn (Post 15590257)
That's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about people who actually move up in status P->E, E->SE, during 2011 via the usual "Early Status" recognition system.

These people will not have their old eCredits removed (just like they never had their old certs taken away).

the same technical principle is apply in my case where eCredits do not get taken away just because you qualified for another status after selecting some benefits.

NAJetSet Jan 5, 2011 4:11 pm


Originally Posted by zkzkz (Post 15590190)
What I'm wondering about is if you get early Elite or SE what are the expiry times of those ecerts. Do they last a year from when you get them or do they expire Feb 28/29?

all eCredits expire at the same time 29 Feb 2012, regardless of when they were deposited in your account.


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