Apology Email for operations?
Anyone else get this today? The A3 CEO seemed to lay blame heavily of Hellenic ATC for certain recent delays of A3 flights. Anyone know the background of this?
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Got it, I was not impacted so don't care much. Only shame they are not giving out some miles lol
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Got it too, I did not fly A3 in the last couple of months so not impacted. The daily tactical update from Eurocontrol always have, in the last weeks, a warning about capacity issues for several Greek islands. |
In today's world of data analytics, it would have been easier to address this E-Mail to those pax/those mail address owners who actually have taken a flight during a specific time period.
I like AEGEAN. Some airspace restrictions won't dent my loyalty. Despite their mediocre soft product in business class, I love their catering, their service, and their overall performance. They're great. |
I flew mid-July (HAJ-ATH) and the captain informed us that the (admittedly short) delay was due to the European airspace being overcrowded.
I didn't care that much (in the end I arrived maybe 20-25 min later than planned), but I too got the email (and by asking around I believe everyone has received it). This isn't the first time either, if I am not mistaken, that such an email arrives, I remember reading something similar about strikes every now and then and I think crowded airspace has been "blamed" again for causing delays in the past. |
Originally Posted by giorginho
(Post 31391512)
...{snip}...I remember reading something similar about strikes every now and then and I think crowded airspace has been "blamed" again for causing delays in the past.
INFO ADDED LATER: OK, after about an hour of searching, here's the bottom line: air controllers at ATH have decided to not handle more than 23 flights landing per hour from 11:20 am till 19:00 pm. Eurocontrol has been informed of this decision and has issued a "warning". All airlines are affected, but since ATH is the major hub for A3, its planes scheduled to be used for late flights will have already accumulated additional delays from earlier on during the day. This whole thing started soon after the center-right ND party won the general elections a few weeks ago. I will obviously not add any comments of mine as to any reasons for the "go slow" other than saying that the air controllers suggest that the number of personnel should be increased. By the way, flights to/from islands are also affected but, with the exception of those from/to ATH, to a much smaller degree. |
Originally Posted by RCAQ01
(Post 31390668)
Despite their mediocre soft product in business class, I love their catering, their service, and their overall performance.
They're great. |
Their business class is the standard European one. As for their fleet, it includes only A32X (plus some turboprops for OA). What would be mediocre about that?
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Originally Posted by KLouis
(Post 31392024)
Strikes? By whom? What for? Against whom? There are delays in the airspace over Europe, and especially Greece, every single summer I can remember. Whether these are due to Eurocontrol or Greek ATC I have no idea, but I have not heard anything about strikes (yet ;)).
Same goes for the "every now and then" part... Whenever they occur, or at least on a a couple of such occasions, emails from "management" were sent in a similar form. I hope my point is clear now. I wanted to let the OP know that this isn't any "personalized" message or a rarity. Aegean does that, I would say semi-regularly. |
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Originally Posted by RCAQ01
(Post 31390668)
In today's world of data analytics, it would have been easier to address this E-Mail to those pax/those mail address owners who actually have taken a flight during a specific time period.
Originally Posted by N1120A
(Post 31389986)
Anyone else get this today? The A3 CEO seemed to lay blame heavily of Hellenic ATC for certain recent delays of A3 flights. Anyone know the background of this?
And the "background" of this is that air traffic delays cause disruption and congestion all over Europe, particularly in the peak season. https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8916791.html https://www.independent.ie/business/...-37934906.html
Originally Posted by Reuters
Europe airlines brace for another summer of air traffic delays
BRUSSELS, July 10 (Reuters) - European air passengers face another torrid summer of air traffic delays due to a combination of staff shortages, regulatory logjams and perennial strikes, airlines warned on Wednesday. The head of British Airways owner IAG, Willie Walsh, said delays were increasing carbon emissions, while Ryanair chief executive Michael O’Leary bemoaned what he called the “lamentable failure of (controllers) to turn up to work”. Airline bosses were speaking at a briefing of lobby group A4E (Airlines for Europe), which called on the incoming European Commission to speed up the delayed Single European Sky project, intended to remove airspace borders and allow shorter routings. “Air traffic management is still dysfunctional in the EU,” A4E managing director Thomas Reynaert said. Between January and June 2019 the number of minutes of flying delays were up 114% compared to 2017, the group said in a statement. Here's Eurocontrol's most recent tweet, from 2 hours ago: delays in DUB/LIS/OPO due to weather, but all other issues are operational; staffing issues are impacting several Greek airports, as well as the Karlsruhe and Austria/Hungary/Croatia sectors |
Originally Posted by KLouis
(Post 31392024)
INFO ADDED LATER: OK, after about an hour of searching, here's the bottom line: air controllers at ATH have decided to not handle more than 23 flights landing per hour from 11:20 am till 19:00 pm. Eurocontrol has been informed of this decision and has issued a "warning". All airlines are affected, but since ATH is the major hub for A3, its planes scheduled to be used for late flights will have already accumulated additional delays from earlier on during the day. This whole thing started soon after the center-right ND party won the general elections a few weeks ago. I will obviously not add any comments of mine as to any reasons for the "go slow" other than saying that the air controllers suggest that the number of personnel should be increased. By the way, flights to/from islands are also affected but, with the exception of those from/to ATH, to a much smaller degree.
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I got it. I thought it was just good customer service to stay ahead of the curve and tell people the reasons behind what was happening. ATC all over Europe is overcrowded.
If only BA would be as honest about their IT meltdowns... |
Originally Posted by RCAQ01
(Post 31390668)
In today's world of data analytics, it would have been easier to address this E-Mail to those pax/those mail address owners who actually have taken a flight during a specific time period.
I like AEGEAN. Some airspace restrictions won't dent my loyalty. Despite their mediocre soft product in business class, I love their catering, their service, and their overall performance. They're great. |
Communication, even irrelevant communication, is better than no communication at all!
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Totally agree!
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