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chrism20 Sep 2, 2020 3:34 pm

Question re points redemptions.
 
Hi

Apologies for the rather silly question, it’s something I should probably know.

When using points as part payment for a stay do you earn points on the cash element? I’m trying to work out if it will be better to use all cash or a combination.

thanks

Goldorak Sep 2, 2020 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by chrism20 (Post 32648234)
When using points as part payment for a stay do you earn points on the cash element?

Yes you do.

chrism20 Sep 2, 2020 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Goldorak (Post 32648258)
Yes you do.

Many thanks 👍

ExpatSomchai Sep 2, 2020 3:50 pm

Just to hijack the thread if I make a points redemption and the certificate expires by the time I cancel are the points lost?

hotel_user Sep 2, 2020 4:35 pm

Remember if you pay with some points for a promotion stay, you will not gain any of the promotion points. ( just the normal points for the cash element )

chrism20 Sep 3, 2020 12:50 am


Originally Posted by hotel_user (Post 32648365)
Remember if you pay with some points for a promotion stay, you will not gain any of the promotion points. ( just the normal points for the cash element )

The stay I'm looking to book is for the weekend before Christmas so it's just outside the promotion window for the current 6k offer and is the main reason I'm deliberating on using some of the points. I should have the promo covered with work stays hopefully.

hotel_user Sep 3, 2020 3:22 am


Originally Posted by chrism20 (Post 32649072)
The stay I'm looking to book is for the weekend before Christmas so it's just outside the promotion window for the current 6k offer and is the main reason I'm deliberating on using some of the points. I should have the promo covered with work stays hopefully.



Moto :

Spend points at Ibis
Earn points at Sofitel

That way you get the maximum benefit on your cash ( ie point earning rate is much better at the Sofitel cf the Ibis )
and don't forget Topcashback lol

HannsenBos3 Sep 3, 2020 4:10 am


Originally Posted by hotel_user (Post 32649222)
Moto :

Spend points at Ibis
Earn points at Sofitel

That way you get the maximum benefit on your cash ( ie point earning rate is much better at the Sofitel cf the Ibis )
and don't forget Topcashback lol

Can you elaborate more on Topcashback? What is it?

JTCz Sep 3, 2020 6:05 am

I concur re: redeeming at Ibis / Adagio / Mama and not paying cash there. Just remember that you need your cash contribution to a partially-paid-with-points stay to be minimum EUR 10 per room per night for the nights to count towards your status.

hotel_user Sep 3, 2020 6:40 am


Originally Posted by JTCz (Post 32649359)
I concur re: redeeming at Ibis / Adagio / Mama and not paying cash there. Just remember that you need your cash contribution to a partially-paid-with-points stay to be minimum EUR 10 per room per night for the nights to count towards your status.


Not sure about that, as we have had stays credited that were below that for the cash element. However very difficult to do those deals !

Prob wise to spend some cash on the stay ... there is always extras ( City Tax etc ) that seem to bump up the rate ( oh and free parking that has a charge )

Maelstrom Sep 3, 2020 8:22 am


Originally Posted by JTCz (Post 32649359)
just remember that you need your cash contribution to a partially-paid-with-points stay to be minimum EUR 10 per room per night for the nights to count towards your status.

False.


Terms and conditions link

Under Section 10 "Using Rewards Points" -

"Eligible Stays and expenses deemed eligible expenditures, as per these Terms and Conditions, defined herein, entirely paid for in full with Rewards Points do, however, earn Status Nights, provided that the conditions for so doing, as defined in the Programme TCM, are met."

ExpatSomchai Sep 3, 2020 1:02 pm


Originally Posted by HannsenBos3 (Post 32649259)
Can you elaborate more on Topcashback? What is it?

It's a cashback site which operates in a number of countries

Global sites US CN IN JP DE

HannsenBos3 Sep 5, 2020 12:18 am


Originally Posted by ExpatSomchai (Post 32650241)
It's a cashback site which operates in a number of countries

Global sites US CN IN JP DE

Great Info, thanks

JTCz Sep 10, 2020 11:43 pm


Originally Posted by Maelstrom (Post 32649585)
False.


Terms and conditions link

Under Section 10 "Using Rewards Points" -

"Eligible Stays and expenses deemed eligible expenditures, as per these Terms and Conditions, defined herein, entirely paid for in full with Rewards Points do, however, earn Status Nights, provided that the conditions for so doing, as defined in the Programme TCM, are met."

If I remember those TCMs, this refers to EUR 10 per night - anyway, this held true for me in the past, i.e. I got nights credited if they cost me > EUR 10 per night in cash, but did not when the cash contribution was so marginal that it was less than EUR 10 per night. At any rate, if it changed recently in our favour, that's good news, and still the bottom line remains:

* Earn at regular brands
* Redeem points at ibis / adagio / Mama

Maelstrom Sep 11, 2020 12:45 am


Originally Posted by JTCz (Post 32667317)
If I remember those TCMs, this refers to EUR 10 per night - anyway, this held true for me in the past, i.e. I got nights credited if they cost me > EUR 10 per night in cash, but did not when the cash contribution was so marginal that it was less than EUR 10 per night. At any rate, if it changed recently in our favour, that's good news, and still the bottom line remains:

* Earn at regular brands
* Redeem points at ibis / adagio / Mama

interesting! I had a stay at the Raffles Shenzhen earlier in the year that was fully paid with points. At first, they didn't want to credit me with the night but after I "T&C'd" them, it was credited. Looks like it might be a bit hit and miss!


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