Just realised, I have a photo of 85HJK if anyone wants to PM me. Think I prefer 85K to downstairs for a mixture of reasons. I like the locker beside the seat (though you only have part of it), plus its quieter. I think "better" pax end up upstairs too. But perhaps the real reason is I miss the old Super Business/First class and being upstairs reminds me of that. OK I never flew in F much. But I did fly in Super Business a number of times. Not as much leg room or modernity as Premium Laurel. But inflight service was better in those days (free gifts, godiva with your coffee, your name remembered etc) and it was certainly more exclusive (just 8 or 16 in C) than PL. Perhaps that's why the lounges are filling up (see other thread) .... many more C flyers on EVA than there used to be.