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Old Jun 2, 2008 | 12:50 am
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Originally Posted by viking407rob
Nice job dissecting my post. I was hoping to get such a response from you. I was laughing my a** off reading it. Really. I'll sleep better tonight knowing I am now living on another continent and away from "good and honest" investigators like you. I'd hate to live in a place where smarta** cops are roaming the street looking to abuse their powers and build a case against those who disagree with their attitudes and tactics. Even through your arrogant, pseudo-intellectual justifications, you have proven my point and confirmed everything I suspected about you and those of your mindset.
I think we each perceive the other as being arrogant. The difference is that I have something to be arrogant about. And I'd say that we're probably both happier that you're living on another continent.

Originally Posted by viking407rob
I beg to differ that some cops aren't intimidated by good attorneys. The only time I have ever been charged with anything was a DUI during college. I hired a tough attorney who openly cursed the the officer in court (called him a lying SOB) and made him change his entire testimony. The officer was nearly in tears and the charges were dropped. I guess he just wasn't as tough and "brave" as you or your cop buddies.
I'd love to see the transcript of that trial. The trial judge allows the defense to curse the witness, with no sanctions. The attorney further "made the officer change his entire testimony." Many attorneys would like to have such power, but I don't know of a court that allows it. The witness gives two versions of testimony, and is not charged with perjury. And the officer is "nearly in tears"? Between attending court as a witness for 13 years and then being a court officer for another two, I'd venture I have seen many more trials than you have, and not once have I ever witnessed a police officer "nearly in tears" as a result of something that took place in court.

Nice, conveniently unverifiable story, but no sale. And I note that you didn't address the issue of your conduct that got you there in the first place. I suppose you were randomly plucked from the highway for harassment at the whim of the officer, while cold sober and en route to teach your Sunday School class?

Originally Posted by viking407rob
Just remember, most of the members of the Nazi SS thought they were "right" too.
Now you compare me to a Nazi stormtrooper, all because I gave a detailed explanation as to how you were so incredibly uninformed about investigative and questioning procedures? That's pulling out the stops kind of early in the argument. Of course, it's also part of the rhetoric common to people with authority figure issues who attack institutions because they think it's fashionable, whether they know anything about them or not. As a member of the ROTC in college almost 40 years ago, I had folks like you calling me a "babyburner," although I had not and have yet to burn any babies. I'm sure they also believed themselves to be my social and intellectual superiors. I eventually got my degree. I didn't see a lot of those folks around at graduation.

Originally Posted by viking407rob
I'm fairly sure that if either of us is guilty of any real bigotry, it isn't me. If hating the way the system doesn't work and disliking those who arrogantly brag about "cuffing" people somehow makes me a bigot, then I suppose I am. Funny thing is that I don't dislike all cops, just a certain type. I've spent many hours with friends in the LE community and emptied a lot of rounds together on the range.
The bigotry comment had to do with your disdain of people who don't dress to your standard. As to your purported experience with firearms, one does not "empty" rounds. You can fire rounds from a weapon until it is empty, but there is no such thing as an "empty round." There is burned powder, a spent casing, a fired primer, and a bullet lodged in something downrange. I know that much, and I freely acknowledge that I am no expert on guns.

Originally Posted by viking407rob
Now go have that donut and please don't drop any on that Sears suit. You have to look good for the public. You know, those people who are paying your salary... LOL
I've never been all that big on donuts, myself. Give me a good piece of pie. I only wear suits for funerals, and as I said, it came from Men's Wearhouse. And it's been quite a while since I was a public employee, although I do get a pension check every month. I work for a very large media company, and there are maybe two other people in the world who do what I do. I got one of them his current job.

I won't say that I'll stay out of this argument from this point, because that seems to bring out the people that cast stones with no fear of anyone throwing them back. But I will apologize to the moderators for letting the thread get sidetracked, and that it be allowed to die here. I further recommend that we agree that you think I'm a pseudo-intellectual Nazi with a bad wardrobe, that I think you're a clueless, self-righteous twerp, and we leave it at that.
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