Thanks, Jamester. That is very helpful. I have been able to find various fares Q, V, and M but no H and will keep trying.

I am planning a trip to LAX-AMS in Oct. and am debating on XC or NC on H fare on UA or purchasing a NW/KLM WBC seat for $1900. Can anyone give a comparison for UA C and NW/KLM WBC. The $1900 fare is great for confirmed seat, but I have not flown in Int'l WBC. The other benefit is non-stop on NW/KLM and my guess is that with no First, NW/KLM WBC should be pretty good.

Thanks.