Originally Posted by
ClueByFour
I fail, however, to see the utility in the current motion outside of absolutely thumbing one's nose at the boss. See "A Few Good Men," the "objection sequence."
How do you feel about TalkBoard voting on new forums?
Not too long ago, Randy told the TalkBoard that he doesn't want it to approve any new forums until it comes up with a formula for establishing them.
He repeated that here, on TalkBoard Topics:
Originally Posted by Randy Petersen
I actually hinted to the new Board that this really should not be about Virgin America. Rather, if this Board wanted to really make an impact, why focus on VX, why not for the sake of the future of FT, take the time and examine what measures might be implemented for actually determining when a forum for any program, airline, hotel, etc. becomes eligible for their own forum. The key is understanding that the current situation does not prohibit members from enjoying any contributions to the topic of VX. As i pointed out to the new members, Aer Lingus has many more threads and posts (nearly double) than VX and does not have it's own forum. Years back, members asked us to consolidate forums because the front page was getting too long.
Long story short, I tried the help this board see beyond this type of action so early and apparently have been rebuffed by the new members.
I;ll state again, rather than focus on VX, why does the board not work together to come up with a formula that will serve now and into the future on when a particular program may have enough thread, posts, page views to warrant its own forum. This way, these types of posts so far will not be a distraction and the Board can serve to take on many more issues important to our members.
Still wondering why i was rebuffed by the new Board members when i factually mention that Aer Lingus has more threads and posts than VX and wondering why maybe they don't take time to look at the bigger picture.
Yet almost every TalkBoard member has, since then, either demonstrated his willingness to approve a new forum and/or stated he would do so without having this formula in place.
Five of the nine members voted for the VX Forum (
Cholula, Punki, lucky9876coins,
Techgirl and
Kokonutz).
Jenbel, when asked if she would vote for a forum absent such guidelines, said "I'm happy to continue to consider forums on an ad hoc basis." She proved true to her word when she voted in favor of the Travel Products Forum.
Bhatnasx and
Spiff both voted for the Travel Products Forum, showing that they, too, will not let the lack of a formula stop them if they feel a forum is a good idea.
The only one not to vote for a completely new forum since Randy made that statement is
Gleff (although he did vote to make Travel Photography into a stand alone forum). He has not stated publicly whether he would or would not vote for a new forum absent such a formula.
So here we have a case where Randy specifically said he did not want TalkBoard establishing any forums until it comes up with a formula for it. Eight of the nine members have demonstrated their willingness to vote for a forum anyhow. Randy, in turn, has accepted their recommendation and the Travel Products Forum was established.
Did they do this to "thumb their nose at the boss"? I don't think so. They did it because, in their opinions, it was the right decision. If they feel that allowing Omni posts to be counted (which, as you know, I think is a bad idea), they should let Randy know that by voting in favor of it.
Obviously, any member who feels that Omni posts should not be counted should vote against it -- but it should be based on his own beliefs, not merely to go along with what Randy believes.
Originally Posted by
essxjay
BTW, it's rather disingenuous to suggest that RP would ever "tell TB not to come up w/suggestions." If you can support such an assertion I would be very interested in hearing what you have to offer.
But that is exactly what a "sounding board" does. It never comes up with its own suggestions -- it exists to listen to what the person in charge has in mind and gives him feedback on his ideas.
I can not say that is the case with TalkBoard because I don't agree with you that it is a sounding board. I do feel it is an advisory board, which is a different matter altogether.