Except those same pronouncements indicated that they didn't want to add a third cabin. My point is just that I will assume that CO will launch the 787 with 9-abreast and no PE until definitive information is available otherwise. I think this is the only way to save disappointment and is most consistent with CO's track record of offering minimal levels of coach comfort on long-hauls. And, even if it is launched on the 787, that would likely stretch the conversion of the rest (also known as the bulk) of the long-haul fleet to some time after 2012 or so. I mean, why wait for CO to offer a product that you can choose to fly already?