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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 3:05 am
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happytravelling
 
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I think this is the crux of my opinion

Originally Posted by abcedaria
I do not get paid anything extra to do my job properly. The incentive is my salary, which is what I am contractually obliged to do. If I do not do my job, I do not only get a proportion of my salary, as you suggest servers should, I get given the arse...

Again I say that I would have no problem with the cost of service being included in the cost of a dish.
Service is part of what you pay for at a restaraunt, regardless of the spin that is being placed on tipping now. That is what a gratuity means - above and beyond the price of goods and services rendered. Don't be fooled by the implicit statements here that service is not part of the price.

I again agree with abcedaria - I have worked at places, where if you DO NOT DO A GOOD JOB, you will be asked to leave. They do not give extra money for doing your job - you are expected to do a good job. Doing a good job is implicit in expecting to continue to be employed, regardless of whether the business actually enforces this view. Again, however, I would point out that some states apparently allow pay to be below minimum wage, although I do not believe this to be the case in California. Knowing that, I can accomodate a higher tip in some states, but not California unless I learn otherwise.

Then there is the threat implied by one poster saying that they will f** with a customers food if they receive bad tips and the customers return another day. You can understand the reaction of the average person - this is now EXTORTION. If I don't give them what they expect in a tip, they are going to f*** with my food! As they sit in jail awaiting trial, they can ponder the fact that they will in fact be getting "negative wages" because they are not working.

Last edited by happytravelling; Jan 16, 2008 at 3:25 am
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