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Old Jan 8, 2008 | 1:40 am
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If you plan to do a "standard" Tokyo-Kyoto/Osaka run I would look into one of those sunrise tour packages which includes hotel and Shinkansen together.

Alternately, if you don't mind the extra hour or so travel time, the Kodama Economy plan, even the green car version of the plan is over 15000yen cheaper then a 7 day green pass for a Tokyo-Kyoto trip. By ordinary car it saves some 8700 yen. I recommended this to another poster before, (its also good for us who can't qualify for JR passes). Again the draw back is the use of the lesser number Kodama and slower (1hour) trains, but the savings can be big.

I'm not going into a green car debate again on the pass. Just forum search it.
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