Originally Posted by
bigguyinpasadena
18% in a high end joint like the OP ate at is more than enough.
Especially when the "auto grat"is inclusive of the tax-which is just plain wrong.
I really hate this,and also being expected to tip 15-18% on an expensive bottle of wine on top of this.
I appriciate and support the working men and women of the food industry-since I have done this myself.
But there has to be a limit-and it looks like the place in the op is really testing that limit.
Actually the gratuity is before tax, so the server only gets about 16.4% at my restaurant. And that's before we pay tip out to pay for the hosts, bartenders, etc., so that knocks it down to 13.4%. So wait...18% is more than enough (assuming good service)?

Don't even get me started on the $2.13/hr.
Chris