oh dear we don't seemt o be getitng anywhere near a consensus, although it's great nonetheless to read all fo these different viewpoints. Does anhone else have any more views on the Sentosa island plan too? I got back today from a long weekend in San Francisco and definitely felt that a night or two in a non urban hotel would have been a nice way to chill out to get over the jet lag (stayed in the SF St regis - wonderful hotel but very noisy), but of course only if the Sentosa hotel was up to it.......