Originally Posted by phreegreens

Not used AF in J, but a KLM trip a couple of years ago was a woeful experience, food, staff, seats all were plain unacceptable. Only reason I was on there was I couldn't get anything else.

The BA/VS products ex-LHR have meant the US carriers have had to up their game, with flat beds, etc. If based on the KLM product it would have to be v.price competitive to get any traction.