Originally Posted by
JeremyZ
We use different vocabularies. I'm trying to tell blooman that those bars are not remotely loungey or club-y. They've got various iterations of the pub ambiance. Some are more upscale than others, but I think they're all pretty boring.
Maybe I'm not as exciting as you are but these are locales in which 30 somethings get together and which I happen to like.

Pubs are great.
And, yes, I've treated Monkey Bar as my after-work pub

It kinda reminds me of the Bull & Bear, actually.
I'd rather have a drink at Harry's if I'm at the Waldorf. I've had some of the most romantic dating evenings at the Monkey Bar (yes during my single days). Maybe it's because we'd get there a little later in the evening? That simian mystique?