Originally Posted by
Flaflyer
EPA feels differently. I used to do a lot of Hazmat. New and used stuff. If 20 oz bottles can go in the office trash, then I am buying stock in a company that makes 20 oz bottles. Every company that now collects 50 gallon drums of used chemicals and pays a lot for Hazmat disposal would buy 20 oz bottles, collect in them, and "Look, we can just throw these in the waste can!"
Earlier you also said that 3 oz bottles are so small they can be thrown in the trash. Take a 3 oz bottle of mercury to the EPA and ask "Can I just throw this in the trash?" See what they say.
And a trained chemist cannot make TATP in the lav in 20 minutes. Period. The bragging British punks basis of the Water Ban is a lie. See sig below for the full story.
I agree with you about the basis of the total quantity of liquids pertaining to hazmat classification and handling. I agree with you about the mercury statement. There are some things in ANY amount that are considered hazmat. TSA doesnt see those things very often at all and when it does get found then it is dealt with as a hazmat. This doesnt justify the position that all the things that are liquids should be treated as hazmat. One thing holds true to hazmat detection and handling and that is "ignorance is bliss." IF someone brings in a container of a hazardous substance and it is not clearly known by TSA that it is such, we are absolved of any liability for its handling. Now if you were to bring in 5 gallons of gasoline in a container that said it was gasoline, TSA would call the airline that you are flying and they would have to deal with it. Its a combination of things that lead to the discovery of the substance that makes it a hazmat incident. TSA isnt allowed to taste, smell, touch, sample or open opaque containers. If it is not marked then it is "just an unknown liquid."
I agree with you about the TATP statement that you make. IT cannot be done in the bathroom. I acknowledged that. However there are some that can and that is more that enough reason to do what TSA does.