You can arrange a cancellation then refund of a full fare (Y) ticket on most airlines including QF (and wait around 6 weeks to get the $$$ back). I thought we were discussing a red eye (sic) "red e-fare"??? which is an web only special. You can only get this fare (N class) via your keyboard. No frills, no refunds, use it or loose it..... You do, however, get free catering and free alcohol on board (if you pick the right flights).