Originally Posted by Boraxo

Don't know about F9, but UA has the same issues from the bay area, though for a few months at least UA still has one significant advantage - more gates from SFO than WN, B6, etc. So some of us will stick with UA if we can get cheap flights from SFO. ^

But if there is no F (i.e. TED flights to LAS), the price is high (e.g SFO-BUR) and the trip is short, WN starts to look more attractive, particularly with the no penalty for changes. Particularly those of us <1K whose upgrades rarely clear.