Originally Posted by
SwissexLUG
Hope I got it correct from my last lecture about aviation... The question of landing rights can be a tough issue. For IB, it all depends from the bilateral agreements between Spain and the third countries IB flies to (this does not affect European and all other flights which operate under an open market/open skies agreement).
Let me make an example to clarify: if Spain and Country X have an agreement that regulates flights between the two countries and this agreement includes limitations based on nationality (i.e. only Spanish and Country X carriers can fly these routes), then the takeover could become a problem. If more than 50% of IB is taken-over by BA/LH and therefore IB becomes a British/German company, it might lose the flight rights that are sealed in this kind of agreements (since IB wouldn't fulfill the nationality requirement anymore). The Spanish government would in this case have to renegotiate a new agreement with Country X (and all other countries with similar agreements) to avoid the loss of such rights for IB. Technically, I think it's a question of introducing the so called 7th freedom in the bilateral agreement (i.e. the right to carry passengers between two foreign countries without continuing service to (or originating service in) the carrier's own country). Hope some of the experts can help on this last point.
This is exactly what is happening in Switzerland too. LX hasn't officially been taken over by LH yet (shares are being held in a trust), since the Swiss government is negotiating new bilateral agreements to prevent LX from losing these rights when it becomes a German company.
the LX situation is slightly different as Switzerland is not in the EU ( although IIRC there was some sort of peculiar arrangement where the old SR was counted as an EU carrier so that it could take over the old SN )
For airlines from EU member states things are slightly different don't forget that over time the individual bilaterals between EU member states and other countries are being amended as they come up for renegotiaton to prevent discrimination on a carrier basis - for example last year the New Zealand - UK bilateral was amended to state that any EU carrier can operate UK-New Zealand services , it may take a few years but eventually these sort of agreements will be in the majority and then ownership will be less of an issue so long as it remains within the EU.
Incidentally , how did JK manage a few years ago when they ran a small number of longhauls ops ( IAD , HAV and EZE IIRC ) because they are majority owned by SK which is definitely not a Spanish customer - the bilaterals didn't seem to stop them then .