I just tried the Trish M. mascara yesterday and it really did stay put but didn't come off as easily as everything else I've used. I use coconut oil for eye make-up remover but it really didn't do the trick with this mascara so I'll try some baby oil. It will really come in handy for long flts/sleeping so thanks for the thread! I've also always heard that mascara on the bottom lashes is not needed and so stopped putting it on them years ago-now just use a little shadow or smudged liner there, or nothing.