Originally Posted by
law dawg
TSA didn't do it.
Who did?
I'd say countless hours training and a gun is a huge edge over neither.
Not when they stick out like a sore thumb making themselves the first targets to get taken out.
It depends. FAMs are on many, if not most, of the high risk flights.
Our government tells us that we're all at risk and that there's a terrorist behind every bush waiting to strike. Aren't they all at risk?
Of course they go down, but to 8%? I know quite a few people who have been in CQC and the overwhelming majority survived. The human being can be hard to kill. Especially when moving, which decreases the odds of being shot in the first place, and then being shot in a vital area. Same with knives. Its more problematic on a plane with only an isle (no lateral movement) but I'd still say that 8% is way, way too low.
Just telling you what the "gubmint experts" were teaching us.
I've said for a long time it won't be the Intel guys or the TSA or the airport LEOs or the FAMs or the FFDOs or the pax that prevent the next terror attack on civilian aviation. It will be all of them. They all make it more difficult to do, which makes other targets look more appealing. And even if they do try again, hopefully one of those layers will catch them somewhere in the process.
I think that's true ... to a point. TBH, I don't have a whole lot of confidence in any of them ... including intelligence agencies seeing how they're run (I'll leave it at that). I do think they do a better job than most agencies. You have more confidence in TSA's abilities than I do. However, I still maintain that it wouldn't take much to get the needed items on a plane if they really wanted to, and the pax checkpoint isn't the only way to get it done either.
As for the layers, I think the intelligence and LEO layers are the strongest, with the airport layers being the weak link. I'm not confident that outside of luck that there's all that much chance of truly bad stuff getting thru, and a lot of that has to do that TSO's have to look for WAY too much like shampoo, water, etc which detracts from looking for things like bombs.