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Originally Posted by
PTravel
I would have guessed you were a judge as you've been doing a lot of that.
I don't get your point at all. Yes, I judge people who think that letting their kid kick the seat of a stranger in front of them is okay. I judge them to be rude and inconsiderate.
Your point?
As I am sure you know, the definition I provided comes from the dictionary (which is where I and the rest of the sans-culottes turn to define our terms). I am sure that you also know that dictionaries provide colloquial definitions. I have yet to find one that defines "assault" as any form of the word "annoying". Your legal definition also does not contain the word "annoying". Do you have a source beyond the fact that you say so? My apologies if you are also a linguistic anthropologist who is in the process of writing your own dictionary. Would you actually tell a victim of assault (a violent attack - from Webster) that, in a colloquial sense, what they suffered is the same as having your seat kicked by a child?
You can't be serious. Tell you what -- use your dictionary to look up the word, "simile." Then start a thread about why it's a good thing to be rigidly literal.
Is it your opinion that if my two year old kicks a seat that a battery has been committed and my child risks being arrested and charged with assault? How much time in juvenile hall for that? Does my child risk being charged as an adult for this crime?
My opinion is that, if you let your two year old kick the seat of a passenger in front of you, you are being rude and selfish. If you think you're interests in traveling with your two year old trump those of the passenger in front of you in not having his seat kick then you are entitlement demanding.
I guess that when my child and I travel next month (to see his dying great grandmother - the nerve of me and my entitlements!), I should bring bail money in the very unlikely case he kicks a seat.
If it's unlikely that he will kick the seat in front of him then I don't understand the reason for your sarcasm and defensiveness.
I, nor any parent IMO, has argued that seat kicking is OK or "privileged" behavior.
Well, lhong wrote this:
I book bulkhead seats when possible, but I don't always have the status to do so. Booking first class is out of my price range, and my kid might kick the seat, despite my best efforts, but probably won't. But sometimes he will. I have a solution that works for me. I make a reasonable attempt to stop my kid from kicking. It's about 99 percent effective, as observed in restaurants and other public places. The other 1 percent of the time, the other guy is going to get annoyed. If you want me to change my strategy, you'd better convince me to change, because what I'm doing is perfectly legal, ethical, and moral to me.
That's an argument that seat kicking is privileged.
HedgeFundFlyer wrote this:
In airplanes you simply do not, and as many people have pointed out, sometimes kids just lose it despite the best efforts of parents.
That's an argument that seat kicking is privileged.
It is something that very rarely occurs despite our best efforts to control it (I know you don't care about that). I fly as little as possible with my child, but I feel that my situation now is worth the gamble. I feel that denying my grandmother her dying wish because of the very slim chance that you might be annoyed (assaulted in your dictionary) reeks of entitlement on your part.
So please tell me why what you wrote does not constitute an entitlement demand on your part? How does, "my interest in taking my child to see his grandmother is more important than your interest in not having your seat kicked," not constitute an entitlement demand?
And, yes, I'm entitled to not have my seat kicked. What you don't seem to get is that my "entitlement" is satisfied by simply leaving me alone. That's like saying (get ready, this is another simile) asking a bully not to punch me in the nose is an entitlement demand.
Thanks very much for your time in this debate. I also think you "rock". I'm sure I can't afford your hourly but maybe I could buy you a chocolate milk sometime?
I'm trying to drop a little weight. Can you make it a low-fat chocolate milk?