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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Ha, find me a TSA screener who has had fraudulent document training...I want to see them pass a test. 80%+ of the time, they can't even find a bomb - how are they going to find a fraudulent document? Maybe if "ACME Fraudulent Document Shoppe" is stenciled on it.
Perhaps one of the screeners themselves would chime in and answer your question. I was quoting policy, not reality.

Originally Posted by bocastephen
Frankly, I don't care. I am still not giving up my rights or privacy because other people can't control themselves.
Drugs are a "social problem". Thus, living in society, it effects all of us. Same thing with drinking and driving and those checkpoints.

Originally Posted by bocastephen
Wrongo - no passenger may withdraw from the screening process once that process has commenced, regardless of whether or not something has been found. At that point, the search becomes mandatory and the 4th Amendment should apply. It is an error in the applicability of the law that it does not apply now - and that the consent for the search is not yet narrowly focused by the courts.
Check your facts. Again, perhaps a screener will help you. At any point in the screening process you can withdraw your consent. (barring any discovery before the consent is withdrawn)

Originally Posted by bocastephen
A DUI checkpoint has a narrow focus - a search to determine whether or not the driver is impaired. I am under no obligation to permit the police to search my car without a warrant even at these checkpoints. In fact, the DUI checkpoint case laws prove my point in a way - they grant consent for a narrow search for a single purpose, while ensuring Constitutional protection for anything outside that very narrow target.
The TSA search is for a single purpose, to determine threats to aviation security. Any additional fruits of that search become fair game when they are apparent. The same thing applies with D.U.I. checkpoints. If they find probable cause that the driver is impaired, they get the whole car during an inventory search prior to towing.
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