Wow. Botox, baby crap and the childed vs. the childfree! This thread is more interesting than the last few dinner parties I attended!

FWIW and waaaaay OT:

Botox is used for more than just wrinkles and cosmetic purposes. It is used for such diverse neuromuscular disorders as cervical (as in the neck) dystonia, different types of spasticity and for peripheral neuromuscular and pain disorders. It has to be injected in more than a few sites, so there is appropriate reimbursement and coding for it for Medicare. When I was in clinical practice, we had a few patients who were on it for an ophthalmic disorder called strabismus, and also for hemifacial ticks/spasms and palmar and axillary hyperhidrosis.

As for the kids vs. no kids, if you don't want children, don't have 'em. I have three sons, but kids aren't for everyone and no one should feel forced into having them. It is arrogant and stupid to believe that everyone wants or must have them. Parenting is no walk in the park, and all of the bullcrap about Kodak moments are just that--bullcrap. I have a number of friends and family who are childfree, and I would never dream of badgering them about their choice. Why would someone elses 'nads be anybody's business but theirs?

Flyer111--welcome to the board but please get off the cross. Someone needs the wood. Having children does not automatically confer wisdom, experience, insight or ability upon the parents. It just makes them parents and gives them responsibility for making sure they grow up as productive, law-abiding citizens. Unfortunately, the law-abiding and productive seems to be secondary these days to so many irresponsible "parents".