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Old Dec 16, 2006 | 8:07 pm
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Originally Posted by JGR01
Well .. um ..

EF tells you how many seats AA is willing to sell on a particular flight.

EF has no 'feature' to say how many people are actually booked in each cabin ...

So AA will sell 6 more seats in Y (Y6 on EF) yet the 120 coach seats on an MD80 (per seatguru) may actually be sold (ticketed) to 130 people already (oversold if everyone shows up yet AA will still sell more seats).

Y0 (or J0 or P0) is also not an indication of an as oversold flight as the flight may have been zeroed out because of previous irregular ops that require placing pax onto the specific flight ..

The ONLY way to tell with accuracy the number of seats sold (and the bodies checked in on the day of departure) for a flight is on AA-internal sytems that non-employees would not have access to.

[I was traveling on the same flight as a non-rev that I know from my home airport .. she was able to see the ticketed pax counts - and checked in and thru - as well as the truly assigned seats - including the AWD blocked seats we see as blocked - as well as the potential miss-connects for the particular flight. We joked that by her knowing this 'detailed' information she could also see her position on the standby list and the applicable priority of others on that list.]

Load factors are different than Available Classes that ExpertFlyer reports.
Think brevity, my friend!

Yes, your last sentence is correct. But we can make some decent guesses based on the data available on expertflyer and seatcounter. Certainly if the flight is showing F0 Y0, we can summize that it's oversold. If it's showing 0<F<7, we can summize that exactly that number of F seats is available for sale and that F is not over sold. If it's showing 0<Y<7, we can summize that exactly that number of Y seats is available for sale and that Y probably (but not definitely) is oversold. We cannot tell by how many seats it is oversold though.
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