Thank for the feedback all, we are limited as to what we can do with this, but I'll see where we can make changes on this. For things like searching by forum or topic titles the advanced search will certainly be the way to go, but I think the Google search is actually alot better than the forum search in some ways as you can be very specific about what you are looking for (lots of search terms and terms that would kill the vB search in a second. Thanks again,