I have had very nice luck with computer refurbs. I bought one (new) item from tigerdirect and had a problem outta the box. It took about 10 phone calls and 10 emails to tigerdirect get it returned and most of my money back. They aint got an single order from me since then. Same crappy customer service to others I know. Bottom line, refurbs are ok but never buy anything from tigerdirect.

MisterNice