Originally Posted by stimpy
Unless you stay away from North America and Europe forever, then yes you are part of the "we". I don't support these horrible policies either, but I'm still a legal citizen able to vote and express myself. You can't separate yourself from humanity if you still live amongst them.
Mmm ... the argument doesn't work. You're committing a fallacy of composition: concluding that parts of a whole with a particular property means that the whole also has that property, e.g.
Genus: humanity;
Differentia: (i) security appeaser | (ii) liberty defender.
Simply put, the whole of humanity (or even just North American and Europe) is not guilty of "[sacraficing] our liberties" just because some or a majority are willing trade it for temporary and illusory security.
To suggest that the only way to escape such classification is to flee from one's residence/country of citizenship makes no sense. If anything, I ought to remain here and defend my freedoms and privileges as long as I can.