Originally Posted by UAL_Rulez
The security forces at UK and HKG airports, for just two examples, are under government control, and I don't see people saying those forces are ineffective or idiotic.
I disagree. HKG security is effective, sensible and non-harassing. UK security, on the other hand, has just gone off the deep end. I'll address their stupid liquids/gels ban in my next paragraph. However, even before August 10th, these "professionals" were randomly harassing/feeling up people who walked through the WTMD without alarming. A huge no-no in my opinion. I despise LHR's Flight Connections Center. It is slow, underequipped and understaffed. If BAA is going to insist that all arriving connecting passengers must be rescreened (and I don't think they should), then they should make sure that the rescreening happens in 10 min or less. They are nowhere close to this time.
Originally Posted by UAL_Rulez
The liquid exposives plot was not a joke. TATP could be fabricated in an airside restaurant kitchen, packaged in soda bottles, and carried aboard. Apparently a bunch of guys were bent on doing just that. Among many other potential methods of carrying out al-Quaeda's stated intent to take down airliners.
Maybe the would-be bombers were serious, but their ability to carry out this plot was indeed a joke. How are they going to get access to an airside kitchen? And for the 3-4 hours required to properly synthesize TATP? If it's an inside employee job, we might as well just give it all up. Employees could easily pass a background check and arrange to have the desired components delivered as unscreened vended items or just get cleaning solutions out of the closet. Harassing the passengers without bothering to address this possibility just goes to underscore how stupid and useless this liquids/gels ban really is and how extremely stupid Comrades Chertoff and Hawley really are if they think people will buy into this smokescreen of lies.
Originally Posted by UAL_Rulez
This forum seems to be mostly just a one-sided outlet for TSA-haters, not an honest debate over what ought to be done to make US commercial aviation a much less attractive terrorism target. Which is too bad.

Feel free to start a new thread. However, if it's political in nature rather than Safety/Security in nature, I suggest Omni as the place for such a new thread.