I want to point out that I was against a rail forum in the format presented and proposed for voting.

The problem I am (or at least how I see it here) is a consistant problem relating to British rail travel and or inter europe rail travel being posted in various other forums or airline forums here on flyertalk.

From what I see there is an already an existing travel forums for europe and various other country forums where rail related topics can be posted.

Going back to the original posts, if there is a consistant problem in the bmi forum relating to rail travel and unrelated to actual flying and the bmi frequent flyer program, then those rail related posts should be moved over to the UK/Ireland travel forum, where It is probably more appropriate for rail travel within the UK belongs.

I think rail travel is important, but I dont think it should have a general rail forum to post questions in either.

Again I think what many of us were against was not the creation or to find a better place to put rail related topics, but against the creation of a general rail forum in the format suggested and presented for voting. I repeat myself but when you have a general rail forum even one for just Europe, will you have london tube questions there to? Paris Metro questions in there? All city transportation rail questions diverted from their city flyertalk pages to this one general rail forum?
Those questions should be in thier respective city/country travel forums and NOT in some general rail forum.

Now, If you wish to have Europe rail travel section for intercountry travel (spanning two or more countries), I suggest is to create a new proposal specifically asking for a Europe rail travel section or subsection of existing travel forums,
with details of what shouldn't be in those forums (ie, posts about the London Tube should be in the London forum and Paris Metro questions should be in the Paris forum not here etc etc). If rail travel questions is all within the UK then those questions should be in the UK forum, but if it is an inter country travel like the Eurostar then those questions should be in the whateve appropriate section is created.

Now the thing the comes up the most is finding a place to put the questions or the sub forum, honestly I think the travel section for Europe is the best place to have something like a Eurostar thread, even if the eurostar runs in UK and France, have a note/stickie saying any Eurostar or inter country rail questions be posted in the European travel section (moderators be in charge of redirecting misposted questions). I'm not planning to write a proposal on this subject but whoever or whatever group does should state that from now on, Europe rail related questions that are not city/country specific or otherwise no other country/city travel forum exist on flyertalk be located in the Europe rail forum which should at least be a subsection or a section of the Europe travel section of flyertalk and stickie notices on whatever respective pages be put saying so (or somthing that is just a draft suggestion).

From what I see, Remember what was voted down was not against the creation of a Europe rail forum/subforum, but rather the entire proposed package of a general overall rail forum was voted down where all rail related questions would be posted. That was something I was against. I'm not against if you want a Eurostar forum etc.