Bruceb,and the rest of the forum... Sorry for wondering aloud, but as a Northwest Elite flyer, when the NW/CO/DL/KLM?? programs align, won't many of these changes be for naught? The other three programs are very much in line with each other and the KLM program just aligned itself with NW and CO. This will make DL the "out in left field" program and I seriously don't think NW/CO/KLM will make these draconian changes to their program. I know I won't get a straight answer on this one, but just wanted to throw it out there.