really if you want a centurion card so bad...just call up the centurion customer service #, which i believe is 877-877-0987, press 3 to speak a customer service agent. when they ask for ur card # hit 0. Then say I am currently a "insert kind of amex here" card holder, and would like to upgrade to centurion. they say no, ask to speak to a manager, and say id like a centurion card, if you have a problem collecting 2500 dollar annual fee from me, thats fine, but then you can have a problem gaining any money off me, as ill be happy to cancel my regular amex. If you spend enough money at least 100k a year, id assume they'd give it to you. After all, why would they want to refuse money, cause ill your doing is giving them more.