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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by UA001
Actually, the DOT's original intent was to provide new opportunities for service in regions that were not as well served in the past. CO's application fit the bill (no US carrier offered nonstop service from the largest US market area to PEK). Using the same logic when the 2nd set of rights were awarded, DL should have won, because their application for ATLPEK would have provided the entire SE USA one-stop connection opportunities to PEK. According to my source, a few eyebrows were raised when the rights were awarded to AA, because the rights were allocated to a route that is already operated by another carrier (UA ORDPVG). DL was fuming because they (and some others) felt that the DOT basically wasted the opportunity.
I don't think that the DOT was gonna be swayed by DL's dubious claims.

It disposed of DL's arguments (repeated in your post) with the following:

We tentatively believe that the selection of American would provide greater public benefits than would the selection of Delta, taking into consideration all of the factors that Delta maintains warrant its selection for authority to serve China in 2006, including Delta’s position that it would provide superior service benefits in both the gateway and beyond-gateway markets.

Delta would offer Atlanta its first nonstop service to China, a factor we have considered noteworthy in other selection cases and one that certainly weighs in Delta’s favor here. The record also shows, however, that the Atlanta-China O&D market is very small, having generated only nine passengers per day in each direction for the year ended March 2004.95 By contrast, Chicago is a major source of local traffic to China; the Chicago-Shanghai market alone was four times the size of the entire Atlanta-China market during that period. The fact that Chicago-Shanghai is substantially larger than Atlanta-Beijing is a relevant public interest consideration in this proceeding because it indicates that American could provide more passengers with nonstop service than Delta in the forecast year.

In these circumstances, we tentatively believe that Delta’s case for U.S.-China authority rests on its argument that it has a decisive advantage in the area of behind-gateway service.96 The record shows that Delta has offered to provide the most on-line connecting service in this proceeding.97 Compared to American, Delta would serve more cities, provide more communities with first nonstop-to nonstop connections to China, and
provide more flights to the Southeast region of the United States, which Delta believes is underserved.98 We recognize that Delta has proposed to make maximum use of its hub in Atlanta to serve the U.S.-China market and that Delta’s proposal would improve service to China, as would the proposal of American and other applicants in this case. However, we tentatively find that the record raises serious questions about Delta’s claim that it would provide significantly more on-line service benefits than American, particularly in light of the fact that, in analyzing the 2006 service proposals, we must take into account the implications of Continental’s potential entry, if made final, into the market one year earlier.

Furthermore, most of Delta’s on-line service points generate very little China traffic. In fact, 72 of the 89 communities that Delta, but not Continental, would serve generated less than one passenger per day in each direction in the year ended in March 2004.102 While Delta would provide more cities with first one-stop service to China than American, the record shows that these cities generated a total of 2020 passengers during that period – fewer than four passengers per day in each direction.103

Finally, we note that Delta’s on-line service points include four cities on the west coast, plus Denver and Las Vegas. We tentatively believe that Delta would not offer these cities a credible service option because travel between the cities and China via Delta’s Atlanta hub would involve a 2000-3000 mile backhaul and because there are now far more convenient U.S-China service options available to those cities via Los Angeles and San Francisco.
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/p80/316402.pdf

Delta could point to lotsa cities, but very few passengers. Not a winning combo.

Originally Posted by UA001
Yes. The point of my last post is not that CAN isn't important. It's just that (in the last round) if the DOT wasn't intending to give UA anything, if the decision came down between ORDPVG (AA) and ATLPEK (DL), why not ATLPEK? With a limited number of frequencies available, allocating another ORDPVG doesn't really make sense.
ATL-PEK is dwarfed by PVG-ORD, both in economic importance(relative size of both cities) and number of passengers. Like it or not, DL's proposal was week, and the other cometing airlines exposed it as such. Had DL proposed JFK-PEK, it would have been a much closer battle with CO. But DL played its hand, and it didn't even have two pair.

Fortunately, the DOT isn't solely focused on a map of the US when making these decisions.

Another strike against DL mentioned by the DOT was that its SkyTeam partner, NW, already enjoys a very strong position in the USA-China market. Not so with OneWorld, and I suspect that the DOT will continue to remedy that disparity in the upcoming frequency allocations.
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