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Old Feb 5, 2006 | 9:57 am
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PoliceStateSurvivor
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Southern California
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Originally Posted by Bart
I'm sure that even PoliceStateSurvivor would agree with me that although there are aspects of airport security he finds objectionable, we haven't even approached or come close to approaching the harsh realities of a genuine police state.
I agree, indeed, with both parts of the statement.

I also agree with those who responded with arguments stating that this contry is on a dangerous path towards a police state.

"Objectionable" is an understatement. I consider some security procedures to be egregious violations of right to privacy. I am specifically referring to dump searches of my bags and patdowns in the absence of any suspicions, reasonable or otherwise.

We both agree that there is no security value in SSSS. In fact, there is no value in it even from the risk avoidance point of view. Then why is it in place? I suggest that the purpose is to desensitize the public and then impose a more stringent regime.

TSA was also planning to introduce programs such as CAPPS II and Secure Flight, which would amount to conducting background investigations of all air passengers. Thank God, neither of these programs has been implemented.

And what about thousands of names on the no-fly list? How is this not a KGB-style blacklist?

I know we have once agreed to disagree, but since you specifically mentioned my name, I am prepared to reopen the debate. Unfortunately I don't have a lot of time right now.

You certainly are an intelligent and worthy opponent. Debating with you is a pleasure.

Enjoy the Superbowl!
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