Originally Posted by craz
Ok a few disagreements with what you wrote;
1) as for Hotels The Renaissance in Jerusalem has a Rabbunut MeHadrain and one can Check-in or out on Sbabbos the Lobby Lounge is closed but depending the time of year one can order RoomService but no Hot Food. I dont know too many people who wouldnt Hold and Eat there. the Sheraton Plaza in JRS changes from time to time lately its been questionable, but at 1 time the Dining Room, Lobby and Milk restaurant had a R. Medhadrain while the Meat Restaurant didnt (I believe this is still closed and has been for many years now).
3) The main reason that the Reg Rabbanut isnt acceptable isnt not so much as you claim, but instead cause its a Political Group where getting a job has nothing to do with What you Know but Whom you Know. Also each Citys Rabbanut MUST accept any other cities, so when it comes to things like Trumah and Missar it becomes touchy if it was done and if Yes Correctly. Also theres the Frozen Meat problem. It has or at least had very little to do with if they gave their Hechshar to a Hotel that was open on Shabbos , and alot more with the dealings of the Group.
1. My use of the term "Mehadrin Hechscher" was meant to mean a Mehadrin Hechscher NOT given by the local Rabbinut but by an outside organization.
I agree with you that there are numerous hotels such as the Renaissance and I think the Sheraton Plaza in Jerusalem which are Rabbinut Mehadrin but do business to varying degrees on Shabbat
3. My use of the term BADATZ in the thread refered to all private ultra orthodox supervisory organizations and not only the EDA CHAREDIT of JERUSALEM which was commonly refered to by all as the BADATZ.
True money, power and jobs are involved in all the organizations especially the new ones, but I do believe that the basic reason for starting them was a dissatisfaction with the level of Rabbinut supervision as a whole countrywide. There are of course exceptions such as the Rabbinut of Jerusalem, Rehovot, Petach Tikva and Zefat which are pretty much accepted countrywide even by the ultra orthodox but once the people started asking for "BADATZ" they ask for it all over
BTW my name on this site has nothing to do with my religious persuasions as to this thread